Party Vibe

@Playground Politics 405383 wrote:

brilliant party, what ruined it for me(whitch is totallly expected at a scumoween) is when the gangs came in and blind robbing ppl, ruined it. I went home. still a brilliant party, and i think the scene will go thro these fluctuations every 10 years. Till next time scum!

had a nasty feeling this would happen at some point because the feds stopped the usual security procedures, though you are the first person to discuss this. Fair play to you for doing so, its like the childrens tale of the Emperors New Clothes..
might seem like now like distant past but there was a time when it was possible to attend London parties without having to be so careful about being robbed…

@`Matt 405109 wrote:

That video is pretty lush. Im worried that ravers and police will now both have a point to prove at the next big party. The ravers because they got away with it last time and the police because they have damaged ego’s. I think something will have to give and i can see alot of people getting hurt from both sides :/

Don’t think it will get that bad TBH and most of these “riots” are no worse than what can happen even in townie places with a pissed up crowd! They get more publicity because of the issues regarding lack of licensing and disregard of private property rights.

England in recent times has never been as bad for civil disturbances compared to many other countries. The authorities try to avoid really bad violence (compared to European nations where people on both sides do often get badly hurt and killed in rioting more regularly and firearms/IED’s are used)

I don’t think the senior cops will want to risk violence/bad publicity (which is why they told TSG to retreat) but they might well target organisers and any party drugs dealers a lot harder. This is what the last Tory govt did in the 1990s and was effective for a few years until Blair got in..

@`Matt 405386 wrote:

Im not sure really when i see groups on facebook such as “the night the ravers won” etc it does worry me.

it should worry those posting more as metpol can get any info they want off facebook…

the cops might even let events go ahead, then visit people midweek for various reasons – this has also happened before.. another thing they do is pass the details of organisers on to building owners so the building owners can launch a civil court case for damages. This happened to a chap I know and they are chasing him still for a £40 000 debt..

@process 405471 wrote:

they did post the address blatently on facebook so maybe it just means its gonna be dealt with same as free parties and the organisers will just have to go back to being more carefull how they give out the information. also thought that maybe they will start to sieze kit from parties at the end if they cant shut it down early in efforts to clampdown. really hope not and sure its just a flash in the pan…

TBH its been in the pipeline for some years, and metpol have been stepping up action against parties for a couple of years, not major busts but stopping events and making them relocate like SE England in 2004.

it wasn’t just scumtek but other stuff like the posh hipsters cracking buildings and then the gangs beating shit out of them, ironically I saw this on a local metpol website as the cops had actually treated it as a crime and were looking for the gangs involved.. but the met and the NHS would rather things like this just didn’t happen or if they did license costs were paid..

for over a year (in fact since G20 protests) metpol have working with cops in bumpkin land to learn how to deal with protests/parties without looking too much like knuckle draggers and the wrong people getting hurt – I’ve had this confirmed by a raver mate of mine, a traveller (who saw a large convoy of every force in the East + metpol going to South Essex for “training”) and official Police sources – the cops did even openly speak to the Press about what they were all doing..

that said its still possible even in the harshest zero tolerance areas to have parties with permission to use places and what don’t annoy the neighbours..