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@General Lighting 404671 wrote:
that building wasn’t just totally lunched out and disused! it was owned by well off types in the music/entertainment industry who paid full market price for it from the Royal Mail – they then rent it out for stuff like fashion shows etc having gone through the proper channels with regard to licensing, health and safety, paying taxes etc..
That really isnt good enough from whoever organised this they need to sort it the hell out. I hope there insured.
@General Lighting 404671 wrote:
it was owned by well off types linked to the music/entertainment industry who paid full market price for it from the Royal Mail – they then rent it out for stuff like fashion shows etc having gone through the proper channels with regard to licensing, health and safety, paying taxes etc..
bullshit
you didn’t see the building. It clearly hadn’t been used in over a decade. Completely decrepit, knee high in dust, and full of asbestos warnings. No fucking way there had been fashion shows there.
Scumtek have squatted buildings currently in use before but this wasn’t one of them.
@Iacchus 404680 wrote:
bullshit
you didn’t see the building. It clearly hadn’t been used in over a decade. Completely decrepit, knee high in dust, and full of asbestos warnings. No fucking way there had been fashion shows there.
Scumtek have squatted buildings currently in use before but this wasn’t one of them.
thats good then, although perhaps they recently bought it?
fuck knows, the papers were full of disinformation about the party… like claiming that people came out of the building to take on the police, complete fabrication.
it said there were 600 people when there were thousands, it said there were 200 djs which was bollocks, it said the music was trance, progressive and psychedelic, which makes it sound a lot shitter than it was.. 😉
@Iacchus 404691 wrote:
fuck knows, the papers were full of disinformation about the party… like claiming that people came out of the building to take on the police, complete fabrication.
it said there were 600 people when there were thousands, it said there were 200 djs which was bollocks, it said the music was trance, progressive and psychedelic, which makes it sound a lot shitter than it was.. 😉
yeah the reports were full of dodgy information that’s for sure. Although I didnt think they were tooo negative. I assume the Daily Mail was obviously.
@Iacchus 404680 wrote:
bullshit
you didn’t see the building. It clearly hadn’t been used in over a decade. Completely decrepit, knee high in dust, and full of asbestos warnings. No fucking way there had been fashion shows there.
Scumtek have squatted buildings currently in use before but this wasn’t one of them.
Asbestos warnings are routinely stuck around buildings – all they say is not to damage the existing asbestos (its actually relatively safe left in one piece). doesn’t stop the place being used. there was even similar warnings in a well known local newspapers office in SE England (owned by a liberal leftie newspaper group) – they would have all kicked off if they thought it was unsafe. also, Telephone Exchanges are still full of the bloody stuff… Post Office thought it was a good idea to use it everywhere in case a short circuited cable started a fire.
here’s proof of the tarquins interest in that site – it was definitely used for London Fashion week 2009.. (probably someone involved with this or hired as casual crew for these events knew about how to find any security holes for access)
RED BULL, the fuel of London Fashion Week, is back again for an amazing seventeenth season offering much needed energy for designers, media and models alike. In addition this year Fashion Factory makes its debut, transforming the iconic shell of the Old Sorting Office, High Holborn, London, into a fully-functioning creative and show space, where emerging talent such as Hannah Marshall and Felder Felder can show their collections alongside world-renowned names such as Vivienne Westwood and PPQ. Fashion Factory will feature three days of official catwalk shows from both on and off-schedule designers, while providing a rare insight into the workings and influences behind major fashion shows. Alongside the spectacular, hi-spec triangular show space, Fashion Factory will include a live creative space, an evolving interactive area featuring a series of Q&A sessions with designers, live runway feeds, backstage reporting and interactive showcases from emerging photographers and artists. Red Bull will continue to give wiiings to London Fashion Week through the exciting, new, BFC tent at Somerset House, with unlimited supplies of product for designers, journalists and models in addition to providing product to all schedule designers in the run up to fashion week.
Contact: Alex Barlow +44 (0) 7766 502 057 / Lex Deasley Tel. +44 (0) 7876 145 777
also this for planned new Arts Council HQ
New National Office > Site > New Site
Even the Daily Mail can’t go as far as inventing entire websites and businesses and fake events and all the info can be cross referenced to check its legit. Even if it is not in regular use (and it wouldn’t be due to health and safety laws) it doesn’t matter anyway.
If someone has actually bought it, and someone else rents it its their private property – they can lunch it out if they want to for months/years – they still have the right to decide who can and can’t use it, most people have an expectation that the cops would defend someones private property. The cops have the right in law to at least try and remove burglars/trespassers from it (whether they succeed is another matter).
Its not even that a load of starving homeless people were planning to live in it or stuff like that freeschool thing they done last year, just a load of sketchy ravers what are more likely to trash the place.
papers and the cops are no worse for disinformation than (some) ravers are for denying the amount of negative social impact the drugs based counterculture they are associated with is responsible for…
@1984 404694 wrote:
yeah the reports were full of dodgy information that’s for sure. Although I didnt think they were tooo negative. I assume the Daily Mail was obviously.
Even the mail article wasn’t actually that negative, although they are hardly going to support the uncompensated occupation of others private property. it was just the people commenting baying for blood and calling for unrealistic methods to clear the buildiing even the most right wing and thuggish of riot cops would have dismissed!
also this (not sure why its on a arab newspaper)
Gulf Times ? Qatar?s top-selling English daily newspaper – Britain/Ireland
this was pure comedy though, you could have taken it from a Nathan barley episode
Scott-Lawson, who has hosted events for Warner Bros, Vivienne Westwood and Coca Cola, said: “It was the worst day of my life. A lot of the sound system people were speaking in Bristolian accents.
probably meant “anyone what didn’t sound like a posh londoner” as the real BRistol crews had their own (much better) party in their own city with no cop hassle or anything…
the more I dig up info on the various factions involved the funnier it all gets, posh-boy (who rented out the building) was himself berated by some other posh neighbours in 2006 for holding some sort of “rave-type event” (albeit with the permission of the building owner) with a lot of celebs, seems like there is such a thing as karma… 😉
In fact the whole episode is a bit like Bumfights but with hipsters, rudeboys, ravers and the Met Police all fighting for a shitty old sorting office – quality! :laugh_at:
OTOH I’ve seen fights break out at outdoor parties, and people do themselves all manner of injuries but also been to really nice friendly warehouse parties – its not the location but the people attending.
@the1log 404745 wrote:
The cops diddn’t come in they just waited at the only entrance/exit and searched everyone coming out. My mate got busted with 9g’s of coke and a bottle of acid. we had no warning they were out there and it was an old regency building above a shop in the town centre so it had no other ways to get out anyway.
because the TSG had to retreat the cops are gonna be doing a lot more snide stuff like that. Its way cheaper and more effective for them as they are picking off tired and sketchy people who have perhaps let their guard down. Its foolish though to do a party with only one entry/exit point, stuff like fires and disturbances can happen.. even the Dutch (who are smart) got fucked up big time this way, a squat of theres caught fire and people got killed…
Jesus christ, I am routinely appalled at my own generation, but seriously, London parties full of posh kids organized on Facebook (Tim nice but dim anyone?) is just about the most embarrassing thing to happen in the last few years.
@Moonie 404796 wrote:
Jesus christ, I am routinely appalled at my own generation, but seriously, London parties full of posh kids organized on Facebook (Tim nice but dim anyone?) is just about the most embarrassing thing to happen in the last few years.
the rave scene has always been full of “posh” kids 😉
well, unless were talking upperclasses, dont think Prince Harry ever had his own rig.
have a butchers at “venues” on here (its all flash and doesn’t allow permalinking) and see what comes up 😉
@General Lighting 404812 wrote:
have a butchers at “venues” on here (its all flash and doesn’t allow permalinking) and see what comes up 😉
I do hope there wasn’t too much damage done to the structure/infrastructure. If there wasn’t looks like it wont matter too much as its already gutted and they just come in and set up a stage and stuff when they use it.
@1984 404814 wrote:
I do hope there wasn’t too much damage done to the structure/infrastructure. If there wasn’t looks like it wont matter too much as its already gutted and they just come in and set up a stage and stuff when they use it.
its supposed to look a bit “rough” – the dudes got a few other more “upmarket” venues for other purposes. Even with todays H&S laws lots of stuff is still permitted if people pay the money, do the paperwork and manage the crowd properly (a bunch of fashionistas aren’t usually gonna go swinging from the scaffolding no matter how much they snort).
he posh hipster dude what runs the agency comes across as a “former raver/party head who made it into the London arts scene”, which makes the whole thing even more ironic.
with these raves its not so much major damage to the structure but the lack of plumbing, people piss and shit everywhere. That requires some full on specialist cleaning.. :yakk:
they are registering websites now….
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