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  • @General Lighting 701922 wrote:

    a bank today would be more likely to upgrade its security systems and sacrifice something like the media centre; most CCTV is still analogue as todays CCTV cameras are as good as broadcast cameras of 15 years ago (I look after a few CCTV systems for work).

    this media centre is or was a common fixture in many large corporate offices and it would indeed be used for monitoring TV news and recording it as well as making videos which got handed out free to TV stations to fill up airtime. It probably got set up in the mid 2000s before the economic crash when the banks and other corporates thought they could directly “own the media”

    Except there isn’t much demand for non impartial programmes about banks; and such programmes really aren’t going to be very interesting; someone has had the sense to realise that by donating the equipment to your community project they can write off the failed project as a tax loss and gain more positive spin than making programmes no one is going to watch or trust (and they can get their employees or “deniable contractors” to spy on the internet from home or buy info from BBC Caversham like everyone else does).

    A lot of this kit is just after the time I finished in broadcast engineering but it is essentially the same stuff I worked with crammed into smaller boxes and sold at a price point which was more amenable to non-creative industries who wanted to dabble in spin doctoring than the premium charged for “pro/broadcast” equipment; which TBH really isn’t much different from “consumer” stuff nowadays if there is any difference left at all. So feel free to post up any info on what it is (or send it to me via PM) if you are unsure or want it identified; I used to work on all sorts of obscure things (some of which appear to be still in use today by some TV channels).

    Some of this equipment may be worth keeping and using for this youth media centre depending on how much space you have (I know this can be a problem as I had to help shift a entire community radio station in a week at the end of 2012 and they may well move again in the next few years).

    I’ve already set up one PA system for them, and we are keeping hold of a load of cameras and the like for amateur film production stuff to do with the kids, but there’s way more stuff then we need, this is what we are selling off, in order to buy more appropriate things that we actually need.

    Ta for the offer of helping me work out what some of it is, I’ll be sure to take you up on that offer!

    On another note GL, I bought an AKAI sampler the other week off Ebay that was ex-BBC stock … so may well of been used by you at some point (if you did that sort of thing? :P)

    @DaftFader 701938 wrote:

    On another note GL, I bought an AKAI sampler the other week off Ebay that was ex-BBC stock … so may well of been used by you at some point (if you did that sort of thing? :P)

    unfortunately it was more the main TX systems/playout (mostly for the BBC and UKTV / Flextech / Thames channels (when they still had playout at Teddington) I worked on rather than the more interesting studio products; (all this kit was carted to various companies on the outskirts of Reading and places like Basingstoke (these being conveniently near West London) and set up there and then sent back to London) – those AKAI samplers ( a friend of mine has one) would be more likely to be used in their radio production studios for in house jingles.

    A lot of older broadcast engineers I spoke to at the time were (in hindsight quite rightly) suspicious of the motives of those buying the computerised playout systems and whilst none of them were against digital technology several of them at different broadcasters worldwide warned me these systems was being wrongly used to reduce headcount and squeeze more channels down the British Telecom fibre links (which are very expensive as they had guaranteed bitrate/quality of service); when some of the features could have been used for more creative productions.

    Most of these dudes were getting their early retirement pensions in the late 90s; they are often still around on hobby electronics, AV production and amateur radio websites and often are still involved with community projects….

    @DaftFader 701938 wrote:

    On another note GL, I bought an AKAI sampler the other week off Ebay that was ex-BBC stock … so may well of been used by you at some point (if you did that sort of thing? :P)

    PS: If that is a S1000/S2000 type from late 90s era try and find some plugin which controls it from MIDI. they are an absolute pig to configure from the buttons on the front panel and the 2×16 character display.

    @DaftFader 701921 wrote:

    Do they let you have a go of the chain-mail suits and stuff?

    No, fuck that! Although tbh there is probably more chance of me getting a dangerous electric shock than the performers, as I have hold of a big three-phase variac throughout the performance and also have to tinker with the high-voltage primary side of the tesla coil when it goes wrong, which contains some properly dangerous voltages and currents.

    I don’t have any vids of the show in Dubai – the Henley one is a past performance that I wasn’t involved with – but it’s the same show.

    @General Lighting 701943 wrote:

    PS: If that is a S1000/S2000 type from late 90s era try and find some plugin which controls it from MIDI. they are an absolute pig to configure from the buttons on the front panel and the 2×16 character display.

    It’s an S3000XL, but still a long process to program using the front panel – very similar to the S1000 and 2000 range, I’m getting the hang of it, and it’s actually quite fun (although I can see it becoming a pain in the arse when the novelty’s worn off and I want to do things quickly). There’s are programs out there for it, but I’m not too sure as to how well they work and how encompassing they are.

    @DaftFader 701949 wrote:

    It’s an S3000XL, but still a long process to program using the front panel – very similar to the S1000 and 2000 range, I’m getting the hang of it, and it’s actually quite fun (although I can see it becoming a pain in the arse when the novelty’s worn off and I want to do things quickly). There’s are programs out there for it, but I’m not too sure as to how well they work and how encompassing they are.

    just had a look and they did upgrade the user interface for that model. the S1000/2000 interfaces really were clunky by todays standards and although I can’t remember what app it was (it may have been a plugin to a sound recording program, possibly goldwave or cooledit (it was a long time ago!)) it did take some of the pain out of programming the earlier models.

    I’ve seen a little bit about a program you can get for the PC (and a different one that does a similar thing for the mac), I’ve forgotten the name as well, but the one I was looking at was to trick the akai in order to allow you to dump audio files directly into it’s ram (but by the sounds of it even that was a pain, and probably just easier just to go in through the rca jacks). As these samplers don’t deal with .wav files, but instead they use their own format, there was some way of stripping the format info from the akai files so that they’d show up in windows, and then use this program to port them over to the sampler or something. You still would need them in the right format to begin with anyway, so without a ton of pre recorded samples it’s pretty useless for me. All the pre made samples come on floppy disk anyway lol.

    However, I do need to get me a nice external SCSI harddrive (or mby a SCSI ZIP) to store all my goodies on as I’m having to start afresh every time I turn the thing on atm, as all of my floppy disks got used as frizzbies on the last day of school and I’ve never needed to own once since …

    I think you could even send samples via some MIDI command but it (as you would expect) took ages… Not sure if ZIP drives have been made for years and any media is even more likely to be defective than 3.5″ floppy disks (which also go bad after a few years of use) – there probably are still some parallel SCSI interfaces around (will have a look in the RS catalogue if I remember as they tend to still sell old style kit like that) and you can still get the drives….

    afaik, SCSI HDD’s are used a lot in servers due to the faster spindle speed and are still manufactured.

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