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June 14, 2009 at 4:41 pm

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DaftFader

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i guess your a firm beliver in perpetual motion …. it’s alot harder to get things to spin the other way … not only do you have to get them going in the right direction .. you firstly have to stop them going in the direction they are …

like anything there are good and bad points to raves but when the bad starts out weighing the good .. they become a bad thing …. common sence really … but this is what alot of younger people who take alot of drugs lack … this is why you get silly deaths from drug over doses that could of been avoided.
June 14, 2009 at 4:55 pm

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General Lighting

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TBH its more a sense of disappointment in my case at how much has been lost in just 10 years… we’re back to the commercialised legal venues and bouncers/cops everywhere, not just in London but in the provinces as well..

that said people are luckier in the capital. When similar incidents happened in my towns big dance music club (gangs and shooting) they didn’t get a chance even to put in “big brother” kit, it was just a full closure and the club shut down with 50 jobs lost…
June 14, 2009 at 5:06 pm

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DaftFader

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imo it’s because things get amplified in smaller towns … a stabbing can easyly be brushed off as “another one of them things” if it’s in a higer populated place as with the laws of % there is gonna be more shit like that happeneing … and a place like london (with torists and the likes) has a very high density of people … if some one gets stabbed in a town where theres only 500 people (i’m not sure how many ppl live in ipswich … i know there’s more that that .. but for aguments sake ..) it’s only one of them 500 that stabbed the person .. and they goto that club/pub or where ever it happened … were as in london there are so many people .. even tho it’s happened at a certain venu .. it’s harder to pin it on a perticuler thing/place as it could of been hanz from munik or winston from cathall estate who could of been just passing by or living next door to the place … no we know it’s most likely the people who live close by and have the allready deepseeded problems with who ever it is that they wanna stab … but to actualy prove it happened because of a certain place is alot harder as there are so many more places with such a diversity of people in that everything gets a bit blasé
June 14, 2009 at 5:09 pm

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the cops had it in for that club to an extent, but it was actually blamed on Essex vs London gangs! Ipswich is or was popular with East London based urban music fans as its on the main train route and the clubs didn’t have “form 696” controls on events like they have in metpol area..

also with Suffolk its quite a rich area and the night time economy isn’t as much of an earner to the region compared to other less troublesome businesses – so they can afford to downsize it a bit if it starts causing problems…

whereas there isn’t much other business in Southwark compared to nightlife/pubs etc… I remember they might have used to do the software for symbian mobile phones in SE London but they may have moved on because they were constantly getting their offices robbed!
June 14, 2009 at 5:13 pm

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DaftFader

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see if you get repeat instances of violance places are gonna get shut down regardless of wether or not it’s a rich area or not even the hilton hotel would have some kind of restrictions put on it if people kept getting hurt there

but as i say monney probably has alot to do with why theese instances happen in the first place
June 14, 2009 at 5:14 pm

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DaftFader;333620 wrote:

see if you get repeat instances of violance places are gonna get shut down regardless of wether or not it’s a rich area or not even the hilton hotel would have some kind of restrictions put on it if people kept getting hurt there

true, but if SE One were anywhere outside that region (including other London boroughs apart from maybe Westminster) I still think it would have got a full closure put on it rather than be give a chance with the ID scanner…
June 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm

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DaftFader

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yeah and imo places in london that attract trouble should be shut down …but it would make no diferance .. as there would be another place just like it down the road so it’s pointless. you go to Llanelwy and some one gets stabbed at the local bingo night and then it happens again it will be the talk of the entire town for decades and no one would go there again IF the place was alowed to continue operating as there would be fear that it attracted bad people where people seem to expect that kinda shit from big towns/citys like london so just let it slide.
June 14, 2009 at 5:26 pm

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I think it varies a lot depending what brings the money into each borough – there has been a lot of trouble in southwark venues so they have ID scanners because they don’t want to lose the revenue from the late night economy etc, there being fuck all else other business in southwark these days (elephant and castle shopping centre maybe?)

the same happens for the seaside towns in suffolk and Essex… there is loads of trouble there, pissed up people drowning etc but they begrudgingly keep the commercial nightlife scene going to get what money they can from it and because all the other industries have died (not because they think people have a right to have fun by the seaside..)
June 14, 2009 at 6:24 pm

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joshd96320

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@General Lighting 333612 wrote:

TBH its more a sense of disappointment in my case at how much has been lost in just 10 years… we’re back to the commercialised legal venues and bouncers/cops everywhere, not just in London but in the provinces as well..

that said people are luckier in the capital. When similar incidents happened in my towns big dance music club (gangs and shooting) they didn’t get a chance even to put in “big brother” kit, it was just a full closure and the club shut down with 50 jobs lost…

zest?
June 14, 2009 at 6:35 pm

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yep thats the one.. that and the prostitute murders (because of the victims links with drugs culture) basically brought things right on top here and put paid to the towns underground music scene (yes Ipswich did actually have one a few years ago!)
June 14, 2009 at 6:48 pm

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joshd96320

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ah i recall

hmph

life goes on.. i never fancied ipswich clubs.. bit sketchy from what i hear :/
June 15, 2009 at 8:37 pm

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leveret

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@Dom_sufc 333576 wrote:

Oh and whos Idea was it for the toilet atendents to offer you fucking chumpa whump lolly pops every time you went for a fucking piss ;D (2 for 50p) Very neatly arranged on the auderve tray though I must add.

Toilet attendants in SE1 ??!!!!!

First time I went there (to the Drome), AFAIR the loos were in a portakabin in (what is now usually) the main room. Been to 1 or 2 other places with toilet attendants and I bloody hate them, you can’t even go to the loo in peace without being hassled to take soap (and now lollipops apparently)

Glad you had a great time Dom anyway, keep it real :bounce_fl

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June 15, 2009 at 8:40 pm

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in SE Asian nations, particularly Singapore, they are called “toilet auntie” or “toilet uncle” – as everyone in those countries still refers to older people as “uncle” or “auntie” even if they are not blood relatives – and they are apparently also found in Ipswich commercial clubs though I have never been in them

in both nations they are thought of as “extra eyes / ears ” to notify suspected drug use to the security. It is at this point I’d far rather just stay in or visit smaller groups of friends than bother with these venues..
June 15, 2009 at 8:44 pm

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GiantMidget

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leveret;333873 wrote:

toilet attendants and I bloody hate them

I once gave a big fat line of K to a toilet attendant once. He thought it was coke. It was either i give him twenty quid or he would rat me out to a bouncer. I offered him a line of ‘coke’, racked up a massive line of K and he hoovered it up. Hit him quite quickly, I then had me coke and left him in the toilet. Not before helping myself to a couple quid out of his tip bowl. also took a lolly pop as well, Served him right though, Thought he was a right cheeky cunt trying to blackmail me!!! :laugh_at:
June 16, 2009 at 10:02 am

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process

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DJCliffy;333875 wrote:

I once gave a big fat line of K to a toilet attendant once. He thought it was coke. It was either i give him twenty quid or he would rat me out to a bouncer. I offered him a line of ‘coke’, racked up a massive line of K and he hoovered it up. Hit him quite quickly, I then had me coke and left him in the toilet. Not before helping myself to a couple quid out of his tip bowl. also took a lolly pop as well, Served him right though, Thought he was a right cheeky cunt trying to blackmail me!!! :laugh_at:

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