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  • been doing a bit more research into why those sharks have become so “popular…” worldwide – despite most users here saying that they are nasty…. well the chemical is a piperazine derivative similar to the “legal highs”….. so in the UK it would only be Medicines Act classified… from a legal POV you could get nicked with hundreds of them, and although you’d initially get arrested on suspicion of dealing class A, as soon as the lab finds out its MCPP rather than MDMA in them the charge drops to selling medicines without a license (which doesn’t even carry much prison time!) I reckon a defendant with a good lawyer could even sue the Govt for any time they spent on remand whilst under “suspicion of class A charge” . in other countries posession and traffic of piperazines and MCPP has far less penalty than that for amfetamine-type stimulants, in some countries MCPP isn’t even illegal! And look at it from the dealers POV – the unit sale price (and potential profit) is the same as pills for a fraction of the risk…. and as price per pill (and therefore profit) has plummeted people who are in it for the money (like most criminal syndicates) are obviously gonna go for the easy option… but this sort of anomaly is a win for the antis as well, as by letting shit drugs take over the market it obviously puts people off takin them…

    yea man if u wanna buy just the MCPP (im getting some soon… you can get it from http://www.wackyherbs.com and BZP and TFMPP and MEOPP all ecstasy like highs and pretty good at that.

    classbhero wrote:
    yea man if u wanna buy just the MCPP (im getting some soon… you can get it from http://www.wackyherbs.com and BZP and TFMPP and MEOPP all ecstasy like highs and pretty good at that.

    have you read any trip reports of MCPP (or the shark thread)?

    it sounds really unpleasant

    ive spoken to users who report good effects … the sharks may of contained large or small amounts of the MCPP and may have be double dropped (bad idea) not knowing what your taking may lead to adverse effect in itsself. ive heard eating it with ginger is good. i dunno i will post a trip report when ive got time.

    peace

    TBH I can see what classbhero is getting at.

    I haven’t (knowingly or otherwise) encountered MCPP personally but I saw a few posts (albeit a minority) that people had thought the sharks weren’t that bad…

    People used to “MDMA” pills often take two or more at once, sometimes fairly stupid amounts in one go….even the stronger “pink kangaroos” (which certainly did contain decent levels of MDMA) caused problems to people earlier this season..

    so perhaps a smaller amount of MCPP (i.e its correct dosage) may not be so nasty..

    although it may stilll be seen as a “poor substitute” for MDMA by some users…

    i read a few reports on erowid and elsewhere. couldn’t find a single good one.

    can you link me up to some positive ones? always interested in seeing both sides of the coin

    have to admit I’ve not checked erowid

    but on our own thread regarding shark pills (NB: there may of course be batches containing other stuff!) we had these posts

    sharks are great. if you get the rite ones
    i had some wicked visuals without a come down.

    I know its annoying but we’ve found takin them in halfs seems to do the trick!Hopefully there will sumfin else going around this w/e!!

    The Sharks – well different reports in England, very trippy etc. If you like that sort of thing?

    they were actually quite good only did 2 (usually do at least 3/4) but i didnt drink all evening, which i think will be a habit from now on, so that probs had sumint to do with the extra fx,

    On the other hand, my boyfriend loved them… he got no pukiness or trips, was all loved-up (when I wasn’t, boo :hopeless: ) and he got great energy rushes. We did get rid of a few but everyone we gave them to, we told them what they might expect. Some people were ok on them like my BF, others got the trippy pukes like me, but at least they were warned, unlike us…

    got some of these sharks the other day
    me mate wanted to try pills so we had a sesh yesterday.
    was his first time and he munched 6 of the buggers! and he feels fine today!

    still unsure about the stuff and I think MCPP is no substitute for MDMA…

    can rembmer where i found the positive reviews… will look a bit later today when ive woken up lol :P… i dont recon anything can be a subsstitute for anything else. Every single chemical has pros and cons of its own and should be looked at as a uniwque experiance.

    if you were selling them as pills, you wouldnt get away with it just cause they arent pills, im pretty sure theres a separate law, i.e if i was selling people flour and telling people it was cocaine(silly example, but u know what i mean), the police wouldnt let me off because its not cocaine, im prety sure theres some law and u would get done for dealin.

    fruitisbad wrote:
    if you were selling them as pills, you wouldnt get away with it just cause they arent pills, im pretty sure theres a separate law, i.e if i was selling people flour and telling people it was cocaine(silly example, but u know what i mean), the police wouldnt let me off because its not cocaine, im prety sure theres some law and u would get done for dealin.

    its not dealing someone is done for in this case – its fraud – obtaining money by deception (!)

    It needs a smarter CPS lawyer to push this one through though and is only usually done when they can’t get the dealer on anything else.

    it is usually only used against people who sell wholly inert substances passed off as drugs such as the dud pill sellers that used to turn up when pills cost more per unit (as they only needed to scam a few people to make a reasonable amount of money).

    There is also no guarantee of quality but a “reasonable expectation” (at least by the Police) of what a pill may be expected to contain….

    its not a case of someone being let off completely – in the case of someone selling sharks or non-MDMA based pills, they would initially be arrested on suspicion of selling Class A substances and be either bailed or remanded accordingly depending on quantity/their circumstances (such as a traveller/squatter is way more likely to get remanded as they are deemed more likley to jump bail).

    if lab tests come back for other substances then can (or should) only be charged according to whatever substances (and quantity thereof) were found in the pills..

    That said most posession charges are now a caution if its for personal use; OTOH people are rarely caught with one substance alone – someone with sharks may have amfet or cannabis with them and would still be done for those substances (even if those quantities are personal).

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