Should Cocaine & Crack be prescribed to addicts?

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May 22, 2013 at 1:09 pm

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The Psyentist

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@p0ly 546931 wrote:

crack isn’t physically addictive.

Fair enough, I stand corrected.
May 22, 2013 at 3:13 pm

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TheStealthyRacoon

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Dear god can you IMAGINE if coke was free. Think of the costs! Disaster.
May 22, 2013 at 3:48 pm

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Pat McDonald

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@nickh 546898 wrote:

make billions for our country

No, it wouldn’t make billions for our country. Because coca leaf isn’t a natural herb in the UK.

We would have to import it (from countries where coca leaf growing is legal).

Also, if crime is reduced, then obviously there are less judges, policemen, lawyers, probation and prison officers needed. Do you seriously think such powerful groups are just going to meekly accept redundancy and economic starvation like… like… like poor people do?
May 22, 2013 at 4:09 pm

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Smackchimp

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Thanks for the replies!

@korno 546881 wrote:

em, no.

Why not? Can you justify your dismissal of my proposition?

@joksgez 546901 wrote:

and who is going to pay for these people to be allowed to do what they want and get given as much free crack as they need

The same people who pay for “these people” to be locked up (where they are fed, clothed etc.) and in hospital/rehab – you and me. The only difference is that we will have to pay less for them to be given an endless supply of crack than we will to keep them in prison.

@p0ly 546903 wrote:

You don’t get ill from stopping coke. The way to get off coke is to stop ASAP.

But they can’t “stop ASAP” can they. They have a psychological addiction to coke, can you imagine how bad they must want it if they are willing to steal and be prostitutes? You obviously have no understanding of how powerful addiction is, and how hard it is to “stop ASAP”.

@The Psyentist 546910 wrote:

you’ll just get banned for being a troll.

If you don’t like my threads don’t post in them. I’m not a ‘troll’ just because you don’t like my opinion.

@The Psyentist 546924 wrote:

I know a few present and former crack users and…all their crimes were committed while high on crack not while craving it

Maybe we could let them smoke crack in a safe environment, with security? Also not all people on crack will behave violently, the same way not all drunk people behave violently. The woman smoking crack on ‘Skint’ last night didn’t behave violently, although she was clearly an addict.

I look forward to reading your replies 🙂
May 22, 2013 at 4:12 pm

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Pat McDonald

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How’s about this for an idea?

Automatic dosage and release meter, intravenous. Sort of like an offender tag worn on the wrist.

Here’s the snag – infections would kill a sizable proportion of the people using it, unless they’re prepared to live under hospital levels of hygiene.
May 22, 2013 at 4:35 pm

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The Psyentist

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Smackchimp you are an idiot!
May 22, 2013 at 4:46 pm

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season.

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Now i could be wrong here… but i’m VERY inclined to say that Smackchimp is a crack addict himself.
May 22, 2013 at 4:57 pm

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The Psyentist

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@season. 546973 wrote:

Now i could be wrong here… but i’m VERY inclined to say that Smackchimp is a crack addict himself.

Well looking at the content of both their threads they must be a thieving crack smoking smack whore.

Would explain their stupidly skewed perception of the situation they speak of.

Yeah addiction sucks, I’ve been there, but being given a free supply of what you crave will never break the cycle. If you’ve managed to get yourself into a position where the addiction cannot be stopped then why the hell should the state, or its people pay for you to live out the rest of your days getting high and giving nothing back in return?!

I could see the whole giving people skag and slowly weaning them off it scheme benefiting some but give crack heads as much free crack and coke as they want is just retarded.
May 22, 2013 at 5:02 pm

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season.

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I could see the whole giving people skag and slowly weaning them off it scheme benefiting some but give crack heads as much free crack and coke as they want is just retarded

Yep I completely agree. TBH i see no positive outcome of just giving out free crack in an attempt to get the users off it whatsoever.

@Smackchimp, do you really think this is a system that would work?
May 22, 2013 at 5:16 pm

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Pat McDonald

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@The Psyentist 546974 wrote:

Hey, WOAH. Slow down a bit. Ad hominem? Against the man?

Perhaps they just want to take the cash off their local crack and heroin dealers. That could also be a motivation for the threads.
May 22, 2013 at 5:16 pm

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The Psyentist

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@Smackchimp 546967 wrote:

The same people who pay for “these people” to be locked up (where they are fed, clothed etc.) and in hospital/rehab – you and me. The only difference is that we will have to pay less for them to be given an endless supply of crack than we will to keep them in prison.

Maybe we could let them smoke crack in a safe environment, with security? Also not all people on crack will behave violently, the same way not all drunk people behave violently.

…..and there are your argument collapses on itself. Not all people that use crack are addicts and as you stated not all users/addicts display antisocial behaviour, so why should I pay for this group of users to receive free drugs when they weren’t previously costing me anything?
May 22, 2013 at 11:34 pm

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p0ly

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‘But they can’t “stop ASAP” can they. They have a psychological addiction to coke, can you imagine how bad they must want it if they are willing to steal and be prostitutes? You obviously have no understanding of how powerful addiction is, and how hard it is to “stop ASAP”‘

Thing is they can stop ASAP all they have is a comedown to man through. You say i have no understanding but i actually do… i’d like to see statistics of STRICTLY cocaine ONLY addicted individuals who steal and sell themselves as a all day career cos i do not think they exist really.. Crack & Smack go hand in hand anyone who denies that really doesn’t know the scene too well. I’m sure newbie C users do this for a short time but it’s HARRRRD to be a true C head without powerful downers to aid you.
May 23, 2013 at 3:26 pm

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barrettone

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“You have an addiction, therefore I am going to give you an endless supply of what you’re addicted to” has to be the dumbest strategy I’ve ever seen or heard, and I’ve studied the Vietnam war.
May 23, 2013 at 5:00 pm

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know_hope

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lol, this is a good troll 🙂

@Chrispydelic 546902 wrote:

Should cocaine and crack be prescribed to addicts?

No.

Should all recreational drugs be free to buy from registered pharmacies or licensed outlets to those over 18 and with care leaflets included?

Yes.

+1
May 23, 2013 at 5:19 pm

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The Psyentist

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@know_hope 547110 wrote:

lol, this is a good troll 🙂

Agreed, there’s no way this isn’t a troll.
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