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hello all,
i have recently started helping at a youth centre that has internet access in hampshire. the filtering of sites for the centre is the same one that is applied to schools and libraries, and various vital sites are blocked from use.
myspace = essential networking with young people
erowid.org = essential drugs information
google image = we are a creative media centre, yet cannot access a basic image source
ironically enough, some pron sites, and squatjuice are both unfiltered.
i have asked for explanations from education IT but they are lazy, backward thinking arseholes and refuse to be engaged in a debate about the role of youth work, and how it is different form schools, therefore should be on its own filtering. (basically, both coputers are in full view of everyone else, including staff at all times, so supervision is tight, plus our role is very different to schools in that we encourage young people to let us know if they are doing drugs, fucking each other etc, so we can confront the problem, i could go on…)
i have heard of the use of proxy servers can mean we can get round these difficulties, can anyone explain what these are and where i can find them?
also i know that globalloon has experience with dealing with bloody-minded council workers and wondered if he would share some advice form experience.
thanks
I know f all about proxy ect butThis may be of use, hope so!
This is a list of proxies. I’ve tried the first two and they work. They are easy to use and do not require a lot of tech knowledge.
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Proxying_and_Filtering/Hosted_Proxy_Services/Free/CGI_Proxy/
OTOH as the URLs of the proxy servers are well known, these are often themselves blocked or their usage monitored by many organisations on the assumption that someone using one has something to hide.
Also there might be a “catch-all” clause in the IT policy that any use of a proxy server automatically constitutes an attempt to bypass policy and is classed as a disciplinary matter.
I agree with you that different levels of filtering should apply to schools, libraries and youth-clubs; its actually fairly easy on most filtering software to permit different user groups to have different access levels.
However many IT departments in both public and private sector have a “take-it or leave it” approach to filtering as they can’t be arsed to work out how to use the extra features of the software – until it gets in the way of business.
This is your weapon – TBH the only way of fighting back is to deliver less of the service if you aren’t being provided with the appropriate tools, but at the same time to make it clear to whoever is classed as your “line manager” why this is happening.
In one job I was in my managers told an IT dept if they did not provide the data on time we would buy it from the supplier directly as the extra cost was less than the time lost by its late delivery – they eventually caved in…
Although you are in public/voluntary sector there is still a budget (and a cost) for everything.
You may need to take it as far getting whoever controls the purse-strings for the youth club arguing that they would cease the contract for network provision from the Council’s in-house IT department, and just buy a broadband connection on the free market from a private supplier if they are not willing to be more pragmatic about the filtering policy (and changing the settings for two machines isn’t exactly an onerous task).
basically im writing to my Mp, the head of youth service and my local councilers to see if can get them to lean on the IT. its ridiculous that a youth video project has no access to youtube, or the a youth music proj has no acces to myspace.
dont hold out much hope, but its worth a bash.
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