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October 7, 2012 at 11:22 pm

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The Psyentist

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Hey all,

Im not here to intoduce myself but rather my idea. How’s Stoptober goin for those who decided to get involved? If not too well or already failed well done to you, but keep reading as this may amuse you. If you’re still going strong and you think it might help you quit smoking long term Im here to make you reconsider. Im sure you are all aware that the global population is growing at an alarming rate, what you might not know is that the older generation is growing faster than the younger generation. And when I say older generation I mean pensioner old not 40 or 50. The main reason for this is simple, advances in medical science. If the patterns of growth continue at this rate soon there will be more old people than young people. Why is this a problem? Once people retire they often struggle to support themselves (although a zimmer frame can help boom boom) financially meaning they require help from the younger generation whether its from family or the state (this must be where my national insurance money goes cos I sure dont use £150 worth of medical services a month). If there’s more people to look after than people that can look after there’s a problem. The global economic crisis is bad enough as it is without it being worsened by old folk selfishly leeching finances and time from the young and able by refusing to die. If you’ve reached the age where you’ve had a hip and knee replacement, are nearly deaf and blind, riddled with tumours and cant recognise the face of your partner of 50years let alone remember where the keys are you’re probably past your best. When an animal becomes too old and is suffering and/or is too expensive to continue looking after we put it down, now although this servive is available in a few countries sneakly called euphanasia so people dont get upset about putting their grandma down its unlikely to make it to the UK. Notice how the swiss economy isnt half as fucked as ours, cos they’re bumping off the costly OAPs. Anyway like I said that aint happening over here so we’ve got to take action. How? I hear you cry. Well duh, make sure you dont reach an age where you become dependent on your grandchildren to support you. And tobacco has been helping us with that for hundreds of years so please if you really give a fuck about the children start/resume smoking this November. I call it Smokevember.

Who’s in?
October 8, 2012 at 12:06 am

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What about all the money spent on treating people with lung cancer that will be saved?
October 8, 2012 at 12:10 am

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p0ly

@p0ly

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I’ll smoke when I die. Rather not stink and taste/taste of shit my whole life. Also I like having a bit of physical stamina… You know, being able to run for 30 seconds full speed without coughing and dying, it’s quite nice.

Let’s not start on economics either.
October 8, 2012 at 12:34 am

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The Psyentist

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@DaftFader 499025 wrote:

What about all the money spent on treating people with lung cancer that will be saved?

Firstly I was hoping I wouldnt have to say this, its a joke. Im not even a smoker myself, or dont smoke tobacco by itself anyway. And secondly surely all the tax you pay on the the tobacco and fags over the years covers the cost of this anyway so if you dont smoke you’re only saving money that’l go towards your heavy smoking overweight uncles tripple heart by-pass surgery. Again joke, please dont be offended. Im not here to upset people just to make some laugh.
October 8, 2012 at 12:43 am

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p0ly

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We knows it’s a joke. Joke rebuttal him then BRUVAAAH 😛
October 8, 2012 at 12:41 pm

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Chrispydelic

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I’m with you all the way dude. Recent research shows that quitting smoking can be just as damaging to your own health and that of others around you as smoking itself. You are sixteen times more likely to “go postal”, killing anybody and everybody you encounter in the first month of having stopped smoking.

Then there’s the danger of smugness. It is proven that ex smokers and significantly more smug than smokers and can be up to twenty times more condescending.

Also, Government imposed taxation on smoking products pays for at least one third of NHS funding so by smoking you are saving the lives of other people.
October 8, 2012 at 12:49 pm

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Pat McDonald

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The alternative is a cull of pensioners, or a 50% reduction in the state pension to bring pensioners in line with other benefit claimants (in the UK).

Political suicide. No elected leader is going to publicly advocate that.
October 8, 2012 at 1:45 pm

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MC G-Tek

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@The Psyientist 499021 wrote:

If the patterns of growth continue at this rate soon there will be more old people than young people. Why is this a problem? Once people retire they often struggle to support themselves (although a zimmer frame can help boom boom)

I actually think zimmer frames are a bad idea, all that helping people to stand who otherwise wouldn’t. If you’ve reached an age where gravity is actually trying to pull you into the ground, do the decent thing and let it!
October 8, 2012 at 1:59 pm

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The Psyentist

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Hahahaha you hilarious bastard
October 8, 2012 at 2:53 pm

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p0ly

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@MC G-Tek 499133 wrote:

I actually think zimmer frames are a bad idea, all that helping people to stand who otherwise wouldn’t. If you’ve reached an age where gravity is actually trying to pull you into the ground, do the decent thing and let it!

I agree with you to an extent, i think walking devices are ok but this picture i took the other day.. i just think it’s a bit ridiculous… some ‘life’ sounds like they have. I believe tools are a natural human way to survive but not being able to make it to the chemist or no one to help you to take pills to stay alive? i think their time is nigh.

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October 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm

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MC G-Tek

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@p0ly 499137 wrote:

I agree with you to an extent, i think walking devices are ok but this picture i took the other day.. i just think it’s a bit ridiculous… some ‘life’ sounds like they have. I believe tools are a natural human way to survive but not being able to make it to the chemist or no one to help you to take pills to stay alive? i think their time is nigh.

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Definitely mate. As you say, some ‘life’ they have. If your quality of life is diminished to the point where you are merely existing, not actually living, where’s the fun in that? Sometimes, although we are able to do something, maybe we shouldn’t. It’s the same as the ‘liquid nitrogen drinks’ thing, just because we’re able to do it, maybe we shouldn’t, because someone might end up having to have their stomach removed…

On another note with regard to the sign, a mate of mine saw a notice in a hospital a few months ago saying ‘we give aids to the hard of hearing’. Bit fkin harsh if you ask me!
October 8, 2012 at 3:37 pm

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p0ly

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@MC G-Tek 499144 wrote:

Definitely mate. As you say, some ‘life’ they have. If your quality of life is diminished to the point where you are merely existing, not actually living, where’s the fun in that? Sometimes, although we are able to do something, maybe we shouldn’t. It’s the same as the ‘liquid nitrogen drinks’ thing, just because we’re able to do it, maybe we shouldn’t, because someone might end up having to have their stomach removed…

On another note with regard to the sign, a mate of mine saw a notice in a hospital a few months ago saying ‘we give aids to the hard of hearing’. Bit fkin harsh if you ask me!

:laugh_at:
October 8, 2012 at 4:29 pm

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General Lighting

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ads like that (note 140 point Helvetica font) are aimed mostly at the old folk to get them to obtain appropriate healthcare and assistance before they flake out in the middle of the street and require the Emergency Ambulance (which makes much more sense)

Even in countries like NL with euthanasia there is still an ageing population and the old peoples homes in NL are some of the best…

The village where people have dementia

(although they are probably not listening to traditional “Dutch” oompah music from 1950s but piratenhits which peoples still listen to today!)

most people are put down in NL only when reaching the terminal stages of cancer and not all are old..

Regionale toetsingscommissies euthanasie | Jaarverslag
October 8, 2012 at 4:33 pm

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General Lighting

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@MC G-Tek 499133 wrote:

I actually think zimmer frames are a bad idea, all that helping people to stand who otherwise wouldn’t. If you’ve reached an age where gravity is actually trying to pull you into the ground, do the decent thing and let it!

Eventually I will be setting up a playout system for audio and video to the residents at an old peoples home – but I decided against putting on the National Anthem for this reason – as it will cause at least some residents (many of whom previously served in HM forces) to try and stand and probably fall over in the process. Instead I found a recording of Harry Secombe singing Jerusalem which was on a old Philips vinyl record (that way we can be still European and multicultural :laugh_at: )
October 8, 2012 at 5:42 pm

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p0ly

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@General Lighting 499156 wrote:

ads like that (note 140 point Helvetica font) are aimed mostly at the old folk to get them to obtain appropriate healthcare and assistance before they flake out in the middle of the street and require the Emergency Ambulance (which makes much more sense)

Even in countries like NL with euthanasia there is still an ageing population and the old peoples homes in NL are some of the best…

The village where people have dementia

(although they are probably not listening to traditional “Dutch” oompah music from 1950s but piratenhits which peoples still listen to today!)

most people are put down in NL only when reaching the terminal stages of cancer and not all are old..

Regionale toetsingscommissies euthanasie | Jaarverslag

The thing is about donating to the red cross so they can send people to their homes though… funding for it.
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