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@Gylfì Guðbjörnsson 591359 wrote:

I don’t judge addiction by going to rehab/therepy etc. Addiction is a fucked up thing.

I guess I’m jaded on the whole deal for getting tagged as dual diagnosis my first hospital stay when it was patently obvious it was drug induced psychosis
@Tryptameanie 591397 wrote:

That’s what all addicts are told 12 steppers or not.

just seems like some people get roped into the recovery business who aren’t really addicts, just displaying addictive tendencies, I don’t classify myself as an addict, just not who I am. Not trying to deny addiction as real and perencious just wish there were more effective modalities of treatment besides NA/AA or talking to a social worker/case manager or a psychatrist, seems to be a less than complete paradigm.

At some point doesn’t the addict fully recover?

Bi=polar people are not freaks mate, they are people, just like the rest of us 🙂

Yea haven’t used anything since ~2012 without outside assistance to quit, but to be honest in comparison to some of ya’ll my peak of substance usage from 2008-2010 probably doesn’t really stack up just alot of rolling & tripping and daily marijuana although I dabbled in other substances and from the start of 2011 to early 2012 I was trying to figure it all out but was having troubles with spice but that caught a blanket ban in my state so its no longer an issue. TBH the only thing I had real real troubles with was NO2 at one point my nitrous cracker was like my most prized posession as sad/weird as that sounds, but during my last hospital stay it got removed from my room at my home. I’m sure if I started in on the nitrous I’d go down the drain pretty quick so in that respect I am an addict. But then you have to get into the schemantics of whether NO2 is a drug or not and what have you and my personal situation becomes a little murky. As far as hard drug users and addiction I just kinda feel like that guy who got court ordered to AA but was just a social drinker who got a DUI or something like that. I can’t say I’ve nearly died or had substances adversely affecting my physical health, mental health is another ball of wax, I’ve ran into plenty of psychosises that were probably sub related but unfortuantely the treatment paradigm for those is the same deal, just replace the word recovery with remission. Its like I woke up one day and was no longer schizophrenic but rather had just had a bunch of experiences of a schizophrenic but I’m not longer invested in the schizophrenia so therefore I’m not schizophrenic.

As far as being sub free its just how it is for me now, not out of will power or what not but just that don’t drink coffee, had 2 beers at a house party around Halloween (not even sure why I was there) but other than that I can’t remember the last time I had a drink, bought myself an e-cig a few months ago as a novelty but the will to use it just isn’t there haven’t smoked green in who knows how long… Not to say I don’t have day dreams about getting off antipsychotic medication (perhaps thats my addiction and I like being on a CNS depressant and can’t come to terms with it) and maybe lighting up a J here and there, but I’m trying to finish my degree (school is damn hard on antipsychotics, maybe moreso than on some more common substances) and then reassess the whole situation when I’m not $$$ dependent on my parents and can take a little more efficacy over my care or decision to leave treatment or what have you.

I feel like this is getting deep and heavy, but thanks for reading.

I’ve come off or reduced to normal levels my worst drugs of abuse. Alcohol, which after maybe 15-17uears, I can now sit with a few beers instead of trying to get down as much vodka as I could all day every day. I seriously expected that stuff to be what killed me. I know this may not stay they case but I don’t think you need to label yourself a ju8nk9ie ir alcoholic or substance misuser for life because people can and do change.

Total abstinence is a far greater and safer option but one you are far less likely to realistically succeed at. If you after a long time feel you have enough control to have 1 drink and leave iat that then why not? If you carry on you were wrong but you knew it was a possibility and you now know you aren’t ready. If you don’t take the drink you’ll sit there all the time drinking different stuff to everyone else begause some program has drummed it into their heads that they are addict and prone to abuse and only lifelong reming yourself you are powerless over the drgs/alcohol and always will be.

We don’ty even tell that sort of shit to rape victims, they don’t say look, it’s done now and unless you think about being raped every day then you might get raped again. No, we teach them to cope and discussn the issues that got them there in the 1st place which is sadly the least available resource of most treatment centres but they can work wonders.

I agree with both of you on some points, apart from your’s p0lski 😉

Hey Sam, let me know if you try any of the c liquid. I was looking at Research Chemistry UK or Pure Chems as they both have the liquid to vape. Just wanted to know if they are any good? As they don’t ship to the states, I do work with a Hondorus and Mexican that have family back home and they ship there. Appreciate it.