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  • I’ve created a group for us over at soundcloud and added a mix, feel free to add yourselves too if you find it useful…

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    http://soundcloud.com/groups/partyvibe

    Ohh that’s nice. What style of music would you call this?

    Progressive I guess…

    Yeah I was thinking chill out, but then it notched up a beat, so probably progressive is right. Still only half way through. The first quarter was bliss for me, bang on what I like (also love drum and bass so it’s kinda varied haha). Not so big on on trancey trance (if that makes sense), but trance with a little pump to it what might make you wake up from said trance, goes down well. 🙂

    Did you mix this Dr.B? It’s water tight, compared to the last mix I heard from you several years ago, what was a really really good mix as well!

    :horay:

    @DaftFader 485865 wrote:

    Did you mix this Dr.B? It’s water tight, compared to the last mix I heard from you several years ago, what was a really really good mix as well!

    I did but I’m not a “real” DJ I use electronic means, software is no guarantee though.

    I used to be a vinyl nazi, but now day’s I’ve chilled out, even to the point of considering getting digi mixing software my self, purely for ease of use and the fact that I can’t afford to buy vinyl like I used to when I had no other out goings (with none coming in from buying).

    Music gets released now days way faster then ten years ago, so you have to adapt to the times I feel. Some of the best new D+B DJ’s I’ve seen, I’ve noticed that they don’t touch the pitch controls on there CDJ’s ONCE! It looks like they have already spent the time to get every tune on there home made CD’s to a certain BPM, what tbf, isn’t a bad idea at all. Some people would say it was cheating, even I would of a few years ago, but with the complexity of dance these days, you need some hands free to do other stuff like play with effects etc.

    @DaftFader 485872 wrote:

    Music gets released now days way faster then ten years ago, so you have to adapt to the times I feel. Some of the best new D+B DJ’s I’ve seen, I’ve noticed that they don’t touch the pitch controls on there CDJ’s ONCE! It looks like they have already spent the time to get every tune on there home made CD’s to a certain BPM, what tbf, isn’t a bad idea at all. Some people would say it was cheating, even I would of a few years ago, but with the complexity of dance these days, you need some hands free to do other stuff like play with effects etc.

    its not cheating as such – although the prevalence of BPM counters and key counters makes mixing easier, another development is compared with even 5-10 years ago the use of digital all through the chain as well as a standard timing source in the studio removes speed/timing drift caused by analogue delivery of content – so once two tracks are beatmatched they are by and large going to stay there without massive adjustments to the pitch. On vinyl all sorts of things cause it to drift, the motor speed control circuitry, variations in local electric power mains, differences in the quartz used as the PLL reference for the pitch control and and for old skool tracks they were usually recorded on analogue tape leading to more changes in BPM – I suspect some 1990s era ones were still edited by physically cutting tape which can easily knock out a few chunks of a beat…

    I edited your post to include a direct link, Dr B. Hope you don’t mind.

    As for the great beatmatching debate, I’ve really changed my opinion in the last year or so. I used to think that if you didn’t beatmatch you weren’t a proper DJ and had no place calling yourself such. I guess it’s because I learnt to mix when there was no other option but to master beatmatching and this was the way it was for years, so when things like CD decks and BPM counters and new blood came along, who made use of the new tech, it seemed like they’d skipped out a big chunk of the learning. Even more so when laptop dj’ing came around with advanced sync technology, or with pre planned ableton sets.

    Now it’s moved on so much that I don’t really think beatmatching is so important. If I was out in a club I don’t think “wow that dj can beatmatch so quickly and so precise with no aided technology, I’m buzzing!!” I’m more interested in what things sound like, how tunes blend together, the journey that you get taken on and having tunes manipulated to sound different. Technology that takes away the need to beatmatch allows dj’s to concentrate more on the sound rather than concerning themselves with making sure the turntables are spinning at the same speed and making constant adjustments to maintain it.

    That said, I still beatmatch most of the time with the Traktor DVS system and tend not to use the sync feature unless trying to do something really creative. It’s just how I learnt so I guess I’ll always be like that. Besides, with all my old vinyl that I’ve ripped it seems that it’s impossible to get an exact beat grid on a large proportion of the tracks and some are WAY out. As GL said, the fluctuation in BPM in some of the older vinyl is really apparent now and it’s no wonder some tunes are a pain in the arse to mix.

    I can still remember when a single sided razor blade had legitimate uses in media production as well as the obvious stereotypical one 🙂

    Joined! 🙂

    I joined ages ago, i’m still waiting for partyvibe to look at my music. I gues party vibe doesn’t want to be my friend. 😛

    I’m only messing around BTW

    Thanks and welcome to everyone who’s joined so far. Sinner, GL and Biotech are all now moderators too…

    I keep forgetting about the soundcloud group thing : (

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