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Whoar i lurv me wizzzzzzz,,,,,missions and missions,,,,mixes well with most things and aye as long as ive got drink and smoke the fry ups fine….:weee:
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so much help from you guys and so many opinions!
wicked!
thanks ever so much for the advice!
u made me feel alot more confident in the human race! :groucho: :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :laugh_at: :bounce_fl :bounce_g:
just a cautionary note : (not trying to scare you or put you off just to give you rounded info) along with paranoia I’ve seen friends become acutley psychotic on amphetamines / base
(feelings of persecution, being followed, feeling unsafe / unable to trust family / friends and unable to realise this is not true… prehaps it would have happened with out the drugs but it was termed ‘drug induced psychosis’)
(and other drugs- in 2 extreme cases a couple of friends necessitated psychiatric hospitalisation. One was picked up half naked in a busy street confused and admitted for few days / week until all the drugs are were of his system and then he was relatively ok, just followed up in the community by a nurse for a bit -until he took rugs again however as it didnt stop him and he was in and out of hosp for a few years- – suprisingly not admitted since he has stopped)
: so if your gonna do it for the first time its worth being well informed and with friends who you feel safe with in an environment you feel comfortable and with friends who (just incase anything were to go wrong) will look after you :bounce_fl
whatever you decide let us know how you are
definately agree with the mix with pills for dancing energy / head clearing
the only reason coke is so expensive is that it’s produced abroad and imported by organised gangs
any backstreet chemist can knock up amfet, hence the low cost
Tends to happen to me every time but at least I know it’s coming and will pass in a couple of days. Not fun. But I still love it. It’s evil stuff, heaven and hell in the same substance.
on a personal level (people are different) I find the emotional aftermath from speed less hassle than that from pills; and I would say its not that nasty if you are sensible, but I’d certainly point out the potential risks to a new user who is fairly young. its not so much a risk of ending up in an ambulance but feeling so good initially you decide not to rest for 3 day every weekend which catches up on you…
all amfetamine-type stimulants have a comedown/recovery period which is fairly similar. I don’t understand enough of the medical terms to read all the brainy papers on Google Scholar such as “effects of amfetamine administration on metabolic and immune systems of rodents and sub-human primates”; but I know if I overdo it I will certainly feel like a rodent or sub-human primate by Wednesday…
I expect the physical effects are similar to E in the long run – tiredness, decreased activity of immune system etc but if you are in good physical health otherwise these effects aren’t so bad.
Hit the nail on the head there mate me and sensible never used to excist or me and restraint,moderation…and i have(aparently:groucho:)got a very addictive personality,which doesn’t help :crazy_diz Dont blame you for giving the medical books a miss,you dont need a book to know its not gonna be doing too much good to your insides,just taste it :yakk:
Depends on your personal metabolic/psychological make up…
General effects are it makes you waffle (utter nonsense in some people’s opinions:groucho:). Does remove some inhibitions (not the way alcohol does tho’). Increases metabolic rates (ie heart, nervous system etc), which in turn cause heat increase – this is one of the dangers wrt overheating, or more commonly hypothermia (complete opposite, but dangerous due to being unexpected as speed heats you up… – it also causes your body to lose heat at increased rate though, from skin surface, resulting in cooler core temp especially in cold external conditions)
You dance like one of those nodding duracell bunnies in the presence of any music (or any repetitive beat – diesel taxi engines, dripping tap, unbalanced PC fan…:groucho:…)
So much for the general. The specific comes into play if you have any kind of psychological disorder.
For people who are ADD, or ADHD, it can be dangerous, but can also be very useful because it enables them to focus (something normally impossible), which is a very appealing state. (imagine the static on analogue TV (which contains the info for all the channels somewhere, but untuned), and imagine that being your normal state – so much input you cannot make sense of any of it, and it is a huge effort to discern anything. Then imagine that being focussed and tuned to a single picture and audio feed. That is the way I would describe the use of speed for an ADD person). The danger is in the draw of that normal state – unmanaged, addiction is a very real possibility (many ADD people spend much of their life self medicating, and falling into this trap with speed and other drugs (cocaine, alcohol, barbiturates, sedatives etc etc) before being diagnosed.)
Another side of the psychological health spectrum involves anybody with any kind of depressive mania (self harming, suicidal tendencies etc), schizophrenia (split, or multiple personalites), or paranoid psychosis (feeling low self worth, and everybody out to get you, finding alien conspiracies on the back of a cornflake packets(humour, sorry:wink:)). Any of these indicators are a very good reason to not take speed – it will make these conditions worse, and could very well land you in hospital…
The body can also do some funny things after prolonged periods of sleeplessness – this relates even without a drug to keep you awake (I’ve done 5 days on fresh air alone, and this applied) – even if you don’t have a psychosis, you can have what are known as psychotic episodes – short bouts where the brain is overloaded, and does a kind of back flip (someone else may be able to describe it more succinctly, but this is what it felt like to me). These can be scary, and you can do some very strange things during them (hiring bad movies, and watching them all the way through, with the rather creepy feeling at the end that they were real. Not funny if the movie was Chopper chicks in zombie town:wink:…disturbing stuff).
As for the comedown… Can be a real bitch, and a few days to recover is advisable, because if you don’t take the time, you will regret it later. Taking more to keep you going is subject to the law of diminishing returns too – always remember – you will have to pay back that metabolic increase to your body at some point, meaning rest. The more you burn, the more rest you will need.
Speed is mildly addictive too, but a more dangerous form (speed is amphetamine sulphate, a salt of the amphetamine molecule), is the methyl crystal base of the amphetamine molecule (so called crystal meth). This is a freebase (much like crack is to cocaine), and for some reason, the addictive quality seems to be enhanced (again much like crack/coke). Steering clear is advisable, and remembering that sulph is only a class B, whereas the meth form is either class A now, or soon will be is also a consideration…
The best advice for trying any drug though, is respect for what you are taking – use, don’t abuse. Most cases, and as with most things in life, moderation is relatively safe (I say relatively, because any buggering about with your brain’s equilibrium has dangers). Excess however, is dangerous, and you should keep an eye on your excesses with anything…
And be safe. Don’t do anything you are not ready for just cos a pal is egging you on.
Your body, your life, do it your way….:groucho::love::love::love:
PLUR
Well put noname……:crazy: raaa raaa raaa
Defo stay away from that crystal meth shit….av heard some serious bad reports about that shit….can make normally peacefull/mellow people turn violent on there friends for no reason….!!!
With your basic speed you also need to be aware of the difference between standard white powder (this has been cut down) which you can snort and is not very strong and then you have Bass Speed which is unsnortable and much much stronger…:love:
Bass Speed is basically pure amphetimine before its been cut..this is wat you really want..this will be pasty and damp/squigy feelin…plus seriously stinkin…..wen takin this you only need to swallow a VERY small amount to get seriously high..otherwise you will be up for 2 or 3 days like me and noname right now…:crazy: :you_crazy :crazy: :you_crazy ………
it is perfect for enhancin those pills man…personally i cant take MDMA/Pills without speed…….partly coz i always have done..lol
Thats how i can last for 3-4 days ravin at festivals/free parties…lol…am not long back from a 3 day free festi in the highlands ravin ma head off constantly…..nothin like it man….:groucho: :groucho: :groucho:
if you take bass speed regularly and in stupidly large amounts you do take a chance of screwing your nut right up…..be sensible and your cool….many people a know have taken it for years with no probs…including myself…lol…
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
av been cannin the stuff for 15 years and am fine
HeHeHeHeHeHe
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Peace
Graham.
Speed aswell as being cheap, cheerfull, extremely longlasting and slightly dangerous, can be fantastic. I have done a lot over the years and have had no serious bad experiences or side-effects. I have sometimes felt paranoid, particularly about my body, that maybe my veins are going to explode or my heart is going to burst, but nothing that a nice sit-down and spliff didnt help.
I have had some of the best nights of my life on speed, particularly coz you can drink and smoke as much as you want. Added to xtc it is brilliant, really enhancing and prolonging the experience. Did some pink champagne speed years ago and it was great. Base speed is very strong and I would not recommend snorting it.
Just remember that it does take a long time to come down, so dont do it at the end of a long night as the sun is coming up.
raaa raaa raaa raaa raaa
been around before that, although was used by civillians, soldiers and politicians on both sides during the war.
it helped us win us that war though…. and the peace!
Both the work of building munitions and equipment for troops and the reconstruction work was backed up with copious doses of amfetamines to boost the energy of British workers and their families….
Aye…. gettin old an sensible in my advancing state of senility. Just re-read my post, and forgot the bit where I mention that it is also great fun (esp as greengurll and FA say in combo with MD – blissful partying everytime:wink:. In love with the world and energy to tell it so – winner every time)
Not makin any comment about my having been up any silly length of time, or the fact I have the forum equivalent of verbal diahorrea either FA…Actions speak louder an all that:wink:… Gonna have a sore index finger tomorrow from the typing tho’….must learn to do it with more than the 1 at some point….:groucho::groucho::groucho:
PLUR
speed for me was the first drug i tried, and spent many a night talking dancing, talking more etc! My house mates at the time (i was 16 when i moved in with them) would take speed all the time, which lead me to start doing it all the time. The girl i lived with was obsessed with her weight, and would take speed simply to loose weight. Its really sick, but we would weigh ourselves at the start of the weekend, and then throughout (as most often we would just sit in at home-this was before i went raving) we would loose up to 1/12 stone over the course of a 3 day binge.
I use to love the comdowns tho, all the hallucinations, as at the time i had never taken anything remotely trippy! I remember lots of little people having a rave on top of my stereo ones, and Kurt cobain making cups of tea on my shelf!
Things got a bit wrong tho, sepnt 4 days awake on it, (dont eat a whole gram of base speed on a sat night!) and started to suffer from some very strange effects. Not as much as my hypercondriact ex, who made me at one point call an ambulance for him as he was convinced he was having a heart attack after having a bong…..his descriptions of how bad he was feeling started to reluctantly rub off on me, and i started to share the same tight chested feelings, andthe following day, going to work was impossible, as i couldnt walk without feeling out of breath.
I decided to gove it a rest after this occasion, and have done it a couple of times since, to which ive had a wicked time.
Moderation is definately the answer to this drug, as being stuck awake when you want to sleep, can do some pretty nasty things to your mind…taken in moderation can give you the extra boost needed to party all weekend, Just be aware of the stress its putting on your body, esp your heart. Ive know people aged 22 to have heart attacks from doing too much (although was mixing with other drugs too.)
have fun, be safe!
it helped us win us that war though…. and the peace!
Both the work of building munitions and equipment for troops and the reconstruction work was backed up with copious doses of amfetamines to boost the energy of British workers and their families….
Yup… Timeline is here if ur interested:wink:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amphetamines/amphetamines_timeline.php
For people who are ADD, or ADHD, it can be dangerous, but can also be very useful because it enables them to focus (something normally impossible), which is a very appealing state. (imagine the static on analogue TV (which contains the info for all the channels somewhere, but untuned), and imagine that being your normal state – so much input you cannot make sense of any of it, and it is a huge effort to discern anything. Then imagine that being focussed and tuned to a single picture and audio feed. That is the way I would describe the use of speed for an ADD person). The danger is in the draw of that normal state – unmanaged, addiction is a very real possibility (many ADD people spend much of their life self medicating, and falling into this trap with speed and other drugs (cocaine, alcohol, barbiturates, sedatives etc etc) before being diagnosed.)
ahhh this is interesting because my bf has ADD and he might have to take some kind of speed on medication but when he has mdma or xtc he chills out etc!
with me i get loved up etc!
but i would love to do it with him but i will try it! i think it has ups and downs like any drug!
will let you guys know what it was like thanks 😉
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