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  • Can anyone tell me …the laws on squating and how it all works as in how people can get around doing it …ta …

    the CJA act 1994 fucked over squatters somewhat, i think… someone was rantin about this to me the other day

    as far as i know, you have to put a sign of decleration that you are livin in the property, and that there is someone always in that property, and if that is there, the landowners cannot evict you by force and neither can the police, it has to go to court first…

    i’ll do some searches and see what i can find

    you have to a find a way in without breaking and entering (a carelessly left open window or whatever). once you are in, change the locks (taking care not to damage anything)

    you can display a section6 outside, to let people know you are squatting

    boothy is right, someone must be on the premises at all times. the owner / police then need a court order to reclaim the property, and can’t enter by force until then

    Please note that squatters rights do not apply in Scotland though

    hmmm…so what happens once its gone to court ..say if the property is empty cos a oap died an there looks like there are no other relatives….what are squatters rights …

    april wrote:
    hmmm…so what happens once its gone to court ..

    you may get a reprieve of a few days, weeks or months

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    say if the property is empty cos a oap died an there looks like there are no other relatives….what are squatters rights …

    it’s down to the court to decide. it wouldn’t become yours just because their was no legal owner forthcoming for many years (I forget how many)

    globalloon wrote:
    you may get a reprieve of a few days, weeks or months

    it’s down to the court to decide. it wouldn’t become yours just because their was no legal owner forthcoming for many years (I forget how many)

    I think its 12 years, this is when many land owners suddenly get it together to evict squatters when theyre about to lose theyre property.

    There are many excuses you can fight in court to have cases reprieved etc but the life of a squat is usually only a few months.

    Ive had squats that last literally 3 days in one case, they got us out so quickly to one we had for 18 months. Mind u this was in brighton yeasr ago, a lot of people were doing it and it was a lot easier then.

    SD wrote:
    I think its 12 years, this is when many land owners suddenly get it together to evict squatters when theyre about to lose theyre property.

    This law has been changed in favour of the landowners (giving them an extra chance to object) in the Land Registration Act 2002.

    http://www.prettys.co.uk/personal_law/property/adverse_possession2.shtml

    There are occasional Bills from MPs (usually Tories) to get the criminal trespass law implemented in England as well but I’m not sure if they’ve got very far through Parliament.

    I have wondered if this is perhaps because the opening of the English Parliament actually contains a symbolic representation of “squatting” – This is when the man wearing tights (called “Black Rod”) comes with the Queens Keys and they shut the door in his face – as if they mean to change the locks themselves and occupy the Parliament!

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    There are many excuses you can fight in court to have cases reprieved etc but the life of a squat is usually only a few months.

    Ive had squats that last literally 3 days in one case, they got us out so quickly to one we had for 18 months. Mind u this was in brighton yeasr ago, a lot of people were doing it and it was a lot easier then.

    Sadly due to squatting being increasingly used to run crackhouses there has been a big backlash and clampdown recently.

    if the owner lives locally and complains enough (particularly if it is a residential house) the cops (if they can get sufficient units) will often try to force squatters out ometimes be arresting them for abstracting electricity (if they have turned on the power or bridged the service fuse) (thus allowing the owner to retake the property)

    They also do this particularly if they suspect the building is being partied they often treat it as suspicion of aggravated burglary, or can use anti-social behaviour legislation if a party or other noisy gathering is in full swing.

    In the Thames Valley area, cops also would tip off the building owner and explain how to go to the civil courts and make a statement to civil court to aid with the eviction. Again this appears to be a new thing and a backlash against the “crackhouse squat” phenomenon.

    In some city areas vigilanté “evictions”, harrasment and vandalism are not uncommon, not just by building owners but by other tenants/locals (even young teenagers) angry that someone is getting something for free!

    how spiteful if someones living free good luck to em i say raaa …but if everyone thought like me …what a wonderful world it would be….hahahaha but true …:love:
    theres this house its been owned by a old lady ..its been stood empty for about 2 yrs ..i ve looked thru the windows it looks fine inside a window has been smashed …round our way there are no squatters at all…i dont know what neighbours are like …its not for me by way …a freind…but the problem is sounds like you need a few to squat so someones in all the time …its a massive house with so much potential…theres a squat in sheff a bunch of teachers live there its ace …they ve been there yrs ..after so many years the house is theirs if no one claims it …..its a proper little commune …

    april wrote:
    how spiteful if someones living free good luck to em i say raaa …but if everyone thought like me …what a wonderful world it would be….hahahaha but true …:love:

    dunno if this is a Southern thing because rents/prices are really high at the moment down here – although paradoxically in Reading and London it was often easier to squat a more “middle class” area than a “working class” area as there was less hassle from locals!

    Another thing I forgot to mention is the potential risk of local dealers/criminals trying to bully people out of their squat if its in a “prime area” for dealing from or they just want to turn it into crackhouse/shooting gallery

    april wrote:
    theres this house its been owned by a old lady ..its been stood empty for about 2 yrs ..i ve looked thru the windows it looks fine inside a window has been smashed …round our way there are no squatters at all…i dont know what neighbours are like …its not for me by way …a freind…

    check it out very carefully. Bear in mind that old people often end up being carted off to hospital or nursing homes at short notice, and also their nursing home fees may actually be being paid for “on the value” of the house (as a charge on the mortgage) – squatting it, particularly if any damage occurs, (or delaying a planned sale) is reducing that value and potentially putting extra stress on a family already in a bad situation.

    Also with regard to neighbours there are plenty of people who believe so much in private property rights would literally see a house rot than let squatters take it even temporarily, especially due to the problems caused by addict squatters in some area.

    A house in my old city was left like this because it was owned by an old family who still lived together but they didn’t get on with one another. The youngest son (in his mid 50s!!) was actually OK with squatters but his parents disagreed with the idea and would always call the Police and authorities to have them evicted. What I never understood is why they just didn’t let the son live in the other house (it was a huge place) and rent out the rest of the blocks, it was as if they were trying to punish him for his “feckless youth” by not letting him have it…

    april wrote:
    but the problem is sounds like you need a few to squat so someones in all the time

    When we squatted in Reading there were usually 3 people in there

    we had emergency plans up on the walls with security info and info about who you should and shouldn’t let in (we had some trouble with criminal/hooligan types), stuff to barricade doors with, and a radio scanner running constantly in a back room to listen to both feds and pubwatch (as then you knew when the local muppets were about and on the streets).

    The amount of stress guarding this place actually drove one of the chaps in there to have a nervous breakdown (not through fear, he was a big bloke who could look after himself but the anger and violence consumed him to the point he turned on his friends).

    if she has died, it could be that it’s taking time for her ‘estate’ to be distributed between the people she left it to. inheritances take time, especially if there’s no clear will, or more than one will

    i hear u need to have long hair to squat as well

    Playground Politics wrote:
    i hear u need to have long hair to squat as well

    nah, one of my mates who squatted in Reading’s buildings for time was completely bald and had been so since his 20s.

    He had no less than 3 entire bags of assorted hats though (which he took with him to every squat) , and when getting ready to go out would often spend 20-30 minutes choosing which one to wear… :laugh_at:

    squatin sounds pretty ace to me, is it still popular among like… non-crackheads?

    has any body poo’ed standing up

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