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  • It would cost a lot of money to use some of the 30 000 cops to stop a rave, and more against the protests, but unlike provincial areas there are still 30 000 regulars on standby, actually there’s about 4 000 specials too, and 3 000 PCSOs – whilst PCSOs can’t usually get involved in heavy stuff they can still watch and herd people. If Cameron really wants to lock off the London raves he could do so. it would cost loads, a lot of folk would get hurt (even policemen) and the damage to London would last decades (some area are still blighted by the aftermath of riots in the 1980s) but the damage would be passed to the working classes just like how Thatcho broke the miners.

    There’s a bleaker picture – both the protests and the parties are being hijacked by angry thuggish men who enjoy gang activity – and not all of these are in Police uniform! I was watching the protest footage and whilst there is Police brutality, I also saw a masked up lad elbow a innocent member of the public (who looked a bit “middle class”) out of the way. OK conspiracy theorists may suggest he is CID, but there would be little point in them doing this (unlike planting the van) as it only attacks one person and provides little useful intelligence – I got the impression this was this lad taking his own bit of direct action and seizing an opportunity to rough up someone just for the fun of it!

    We all know at London parties how you now have to be on guard against being robbed (something which didn’t happen as much at squat parties in the 90s – maybe its because few people had mobiles then other than dealers even thieves didn’t want to fuck with – or maybe they were paradoxically more a middle class arty thing!) I know there is security nowadays but they can’t be everywhere and incidents still happen. Worse, it seems that when the Met caused a break in the security checking at Scumoween, all the same hood rats what fought the Police robbed or at least tried to rob people later…

    There is also even less support for a rave amongst the wider populace than there is against budget cuts for unis or public services.

    @students – your budget cuts and the weekend hedonism of a rave are two separate issues, just like they were 20 years ago (when I went on both student marches and to raves).

    If you really want your protest to make a difference join an occupation of your uni (or the one you plan to attend) – it is the uni authorities bleating for the fees increases and the uni management taking the high salaries. For the ordinary taxpayer citizen, paying for stuff like NHS, education from age 5-18 in conventional schools, roads/transport, even defence comes first. I disagree with the war BTW but we need to “finish what we start” otherwise the world becomes more unstable and fuel prices rise more which fucks everyone over.

    Try and distance the student protests from the raves/drugs culture as otherwise this link will be used against you by the right wing, and they do still have power.

    I think they’re making it free so they can get as many people in as quickly as possible. Police’s best bet is always stopping people getting in. Maybe try to recoup cost with drink/nitrous sales etc.

    I am a bit nervous about this one but fuckit, it’s gonna be a laugh whatever happens.

    @Iacchus 409121 wrote:

    I think they’re making it free so they can get as many people in as quickly as possible. Police’s best bet is always stopping people getting in. Maybe try to recoup cost with drink/nitrous sales etc.

    Something they were doing in SE England (constabularies there started implementing zero tolerance policies from 2004 onwards) for about 5 years 😉 Also it makes sense to “plead poverty” now the cops are treating raves as organised crime and building owners occasionally launch civil cases to recover the cost of damage (rare, but it does happen).

    wondered when this post would come up!

    see you scummers on the dancefloor! woop!

    @General Lighting 409122 wrote:

    Also it makes sense to “plead poverty”

    Recession for the win :weee::weee::weee::weee:

    @Iacchus 409121 wrote:

    I think they’re making it free so they can get as many people in as quickly as possible. Police’s best bet is always stopping people getting in. Maybe try to recoup cost with drink/nitrous sales etc.

    I am a bit nervous about this one but fuckit, it’s gonna be a laugh whatever happens.

    stay safe

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    @1984 409139 wrote:

    stay safe

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    :laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at: love that scene

    What does the below mean?

    “FULL SECURITY
    SO REMEMBER
    DONT COME TEST UNLESS,
    YOU COME PROPER!!! “

    ????

    @Lt Luna 409165 wrote:

    What does the below mean?

    “FULL SECURITY
    SO REMEMBER
    DONT COME TEST UNLESS,
    YOU COME PROPER!!! “

    ????

    If your planning on coming tooled up with your little gang in order to mug people dont bother, we are harder than you.

    well that’s my interpretation anyway

    I thought it was a typo and they were talking about a dress code haha

    @1984 409166 wrote:

    If your planning on coming tooled up with your little gang in order to mug people dont bother, we are harder than you.

    well that’s my interpretation anyway

    yes yes, 1984 is street and can chat like da youtdem innit :laugh_at:

    @General Lighting 409168 wrote:

    yes yes, 1984 is street and can chat like da youtdem innit :laugh_at:

    I am notoriously urban :weee:

    @1984 409166 wrote:

    If your planning on coming tooled up with your little gang in order to mug people dont bother, we are harder than you.

    well that’s my interpretation anyway

    That sounds like a challenge to me..

    I’m not one to turn down a challenge. * polishes pistol *:wink:

    @I_Can’t_Hear_You 409064 wrote:

    So up for this 😀
    Fucking police wankers, they battered enough of us at the protest yesterday…

    there is a whole thread here to discuss this – especially as it appears the cops waited until the mainstream media had gone home to get heavy, and there aren’t as many reports of brutality from the most recent ones..

    http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/chatter/43605-students-kicking-off-again-2.html

    fuckin tag. wont be at this one :'( gonna give a mate of mine who going a picture of myself for him to take with him. atleast ill sort of be there!

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