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  • yeah i imagine someone is asking on a thread about subuxone then someone else came in and say > oh, Gosh, hell i am so good, i can quit without even a paracetamol to help me! Damn i am good! And you ? You are all suckers, loosers, whinners, stop whinning! Look at me and get my respect all you smackheads!

    Just ignore the guy ladywolf, and i suggest listen to the experienced and pro in here who has gone through all the process but also do some research about subuxone or subutex on the net as well.

    So you will get both > answers from real people experience and theory about the medications itself.

    and dont give up! I really appreciate you trying to get some information to quit though. That is already a good step. Rather than do nothing. And make plans. Have someone beside you to take care of you when you decided to take the subutex for the first time.

    Keep on going!

    orangecarrothacker wrote:
    yeah i imagine someone is asking on a thread about subuxone then someone else came in and say > oh, Gosh, hell i am so good, i can quit without even a paracetamol to help me! Damn i am good! And you ? You are all suckers, loosers, whinners, stop whinning! Look at me and get my respect all you smackheads!

    Just ignore the guy ladywolf, and i suggest listen to the experienced and pro in here who has gone through all the process but also do some research about subuxone or subutex on the net as well.

    So you will get both > answers from real people experience and theory about the medications itself.

    PS. she actualy first came on here asking people to send her class c drugs.

    and dont give up! I really appreciate you trying to get some information to quit though. That is already a good step. Rather than do nothing. And make plans. Have someone beside you to take care of you when you decided to take the subutex for the first time.

    Keep on going!

    Done the subutex there shit! there ok if you crush them up and main line them you get abit of a rush! But Bupnorphine acts as abit of a blocker so you have to do twice as much smack to stop you rattling cos subutex dont realy stop you as its not realy an opioid.

    Meth stops you but its harder to stop taking the methadone than it is the smack and you can withdraw for up to 3 months.

    The only way is to stop taking the gear in the first plase IMO. But you dont have to listen to me do it your own way.

    HappyHippy wrote:
    In your first post you said you stopped for a year, right? So you know you can stop cos you’ve already proved it – you did it before so you can do it again if you want to. Question is do you really want to? Cos like Mr AHC said, you gotta really be determined. Sounds almost like it’s the fear of the withdrawal more than the withdrawal itself that you’re struggling with, and the fear isn’t a physical symptom it’s in your head. Probably your subconscious mind telling you that you just want another hit – only you can decide whether you face the fear head on or give in to it – do what you gotta do.

    It is true, i am really afraid and traumatized by the withdrawal symptom. I imagined the withdrawal i got back in those years when i was still a heavy heroin addict that took 2 grams a day. How the pain, all night long screaming in pain, vomitting, sweating, cold turkeys. loneliness, depressed, unable to eat nor drink, my backbone as if falling out from its place….And something inside me that cravessssss makes me unable to breath.

    I am scared ..totally…with withdrawal symptoms..thats why i need medications to help me quit.

    Anybody knows any antidepressant or antianxiety that is legal to purchase over the counter?

    ladywolf wrote:
    j hate people like you. Who can boast to other addict bacause you are clean now, knowing you are on top and addicts like me are at the bottom. I do not need your respect. I dont respect people like you.

    And i do not whine. Especially not to you. And you are also wasting my time because you DID NOT even answer any of my questions. Instead saying things that has nothing to do with my questions.

    I asked them because i need answers, not stepped at by people like you who look down on drug addicts and called people like us smackhead.

    You asshole. We, smackheads, also struggle! As if you did not know!
    You knew how hard our struggle is and still look down upon us that is why u deserve to be called an asshole! ASSHOLE!

    Whyever i posted those questions if i am not struggling ??!! I need to spend some time and turn on my computer and log in to windows and connect to the internet and type http://www.partyvibe.com and log in and go into forum side, expecting to get some answers! Instead of stupid boast from people like you!

    And you dont have to reply ever to this thread again. You are useless!

    And you AHC, shut up. Answer the questions or shut up. Talk elsewhere. Not in my thread.

    Reply is only for people who knows the answer to my questions above. Thank you.

    I guess you came on here to get responces – thats what has happened…

    You dont have to listen to what you dont want to – but people have opinions – and you take the risk by posting that you may or may not like what you hear!

    There are other forums specifically on opiates and addiction you can goolge if you want –

    MrAHC wrote:
    Done the subutex there shit! there ok if you crush them up and main line them you get abit of a rush! But Bupnorphine acts as abit of a blocker so you have to do twice as much smack to stop you rattling cos subutex dont realy stop you as its not realy an opioid.

    I dont understand what are u talking about. I do not want to misuse subutex and get myself high from it. I know it blocks the receptor and makes me unable to feel heroin anymore.

    i do not want to waste my time repeating my questions here.AGAIN.Just scroll up and read it.

    Are u high or something ?

    MrAHC wrote:
    Done the subutex there shit! there ok if you crush them up and main line them you get abit of a rush! But Bupnorphine acts as abit of a blocker so you have to do twice as much smack to stop you rattling cos subutex dont realy stop you as its not realy an opioid.

    I dont understand what are u talking about. I do not want to misuse subutex and get myself high from it. I know it blocks the receptor and makes me unable to feel heroin anymore.

    i do not want to waste my time repeating my questions here.AGAIN.Just scroll up and read it.

    Are u high or something ?

    No I’m not high I dont take drugs anymore not anything.

    For fucks sake you asked about peoples experience with subutex. Your hard work so you are. Carry on doing what your doing but I canny see you getting much luck. If you was as desprate to get of the gear as you say you’d of stopped by now.

    It can be done and most people who have stoped using smack have done so with little or no cemical help.

    mrahc wrote:
    No I’m not high I dont take drugs anymore not anything.

    For fucks sake you asked about peoples experience with subutex. Your hard work so you are. Carry on doing what your doing but I canny see you getting much luck. If you was as desprate to get of the gear as you say you’d of stopped by now.

    It can be done and most people who have stoped using smack have done so with little or no cemical help.

    you are not even typing correctly. And this is what i am talking about by you are not answering my questions. I did not ask about peoples experiences with subutex. Read again.Fuck it ill just post it again below

    is there is any legal painkiller that really can help through withdrawal symptom ?

    Or is there is any natural food or drink that can help my body release the poison out from my system ?

    Does lowering my heroin dose help ?

    Or it is no use because it is still heroin anyway. What i mean is, when i take one puff of heroin, i think that i already take heroin, heroin is already in my system, so taking one puff or 10 puffs does not make a difference. Or does it ?

    I managed to get a hand on subutex but until now i still dont dare to take it. The subutex that i got is made in China and very low dose. It is 0.3mg per tablet.

    How many hours should i wait after i take heroin to take subutex?

    And how many days should i wait if i were on methadone before i start on subutex?

    Is it true that if u take subutex immediately just after u take heroin u will get a withdrawal symptom instead ?

    The subutex will act like naltrexone and u will get instant crazy withdrawal symptom?

    And how many dose of subutex should i take ?

    i am thinking of 4 0.3mg tablets in the morning and another 4 0.3mg tablets at night then reduce to 4 and 3 the next day. I dont know whether it really can help! I mean it is such a low dose!
    And i only have 30 tablets. But i have lots of sleeping pills. Should i just take those and sleep everyday or perhaps forever?

    Subutex

    How long should i wait before i start taking subutex?

    If i take heroin at night, should i wait until the next morning to start taking subutex or subuxone?

    Is it true that if i take subutex immediately just after i take heroin i will have withdrawal symptom instead ?

    And how many milligrams of subutex should i take to cover up my withdrawal symptom?

    my heroin dose is not really high, especially i am not using the high quality heroin. My dose is about 0.25gram a day.

    And the thing is, it is true to the fact that i am using more than i need because i am scared.

    Especially everytime i just wake up from my sleep, i will immediately go into a panic stage if i dont have any heroin in my possession. I am traumatized by the withdrawal symptom that i will call the dealer immediately after i woke up even though i can still stand my withdrawal.

    Is there is any painkiller or any anxiety pills that can help me out and it is legal to purchase?

    Does Subutex help with the anxiety?

    It is true, i am really afraid and traumatized by the withdrawal symptom. I imagined the withdrawal i got back in those years when i was still a heavy heroin addict that took 2 grams a day. How the pain, all night long screaming in pain, vomitting, sweating, cold turkeys. loneliness, depressed, unable to eat nor drink, my backbone as if falling out from its place….And something inside me that cravessssss makes me unable to breath.

    I am scared ..totally…with withdrawal symptoms..thats why i need medications to help me quit.

    Anybody knows any antidepressant or antianxiety that is legal to purchase over the counter?

    may be agree to disagree ??

    Mr AHC your (valid) opinions dont seem to be being listened to and it seems to me to be going in unproductive circles…..

    Ladywolf – read the thread highlighted in the last page – lots of info on it – maybe more helpful

    Tank Girl wrote:
    may be agree to disagree ??

    Mr AHC your (valid) opinions dont seem to be being listened to and it seems to me to be going in unproductive circles…..
    Ladywolf – read the thread highlighted in the last page – lots of info on it – maybe more helpful

    the ones highlighted with red are the questions

    maybe you should ask a doctor….

    TBH ladywolf you are probably better off looking on a forum specifically for opiate recovery, or trying to get to some sort of health care professional.

    No disrespect intended but the bulk of users from here are recreational drug users from the rave party scene, who are mostly from the UK and Europe.

    The bulk of the people here are not problematic users of opiates or any drugs.

    Some do get into this drug by “accident” from the party drugs scene – and info elsewhere on this forum is as much as you will get from here at the moment as those people currenlty going through detox (one of whom I know in real life) have shared their experiences, but they tend to live lifestyles where they are not regularly able to go on line.

    Also out of those who experience drug problems with opiates, they tend to turn to the public funded healthcare services that exist in some of the Western countries.

    I appreciate this does not exist in many Asian countries (or the USA) as all healthcare has to be paid for – but this forum can’t act as a substitute for indepth medical advice which is what you appear to be after.

    look i dont mean to be rude but just give up posting shit on this site you obviosly havent listend to a word any 1 has said so FUCK OFF!!ive done it a few times an as i said befor .25 of a g aint shit itll take about 3-4 days an you useually feal ok on the third day so stop complaining an get at it!!!all i gota say!:you_crazy

    d.r.e.a.m wrote:
    look i dont mean to be rude but just give up posting shit on this site you obviosly havent listend to a word any 1 has said so FUCK OFF!!ive done it a few times an as i said befor .25 of a g aint shit itll take about 3-4 days an you useually feal ok on the third day so stop complaining an get at it!!!all i gota say!:you_crazy

    HEY DUDE you are the one who is supposed to get the fuck off! what the fuck is your intention to fuck with me ? If you cannot help or whatever, just leave my thread alone!! And you dont have the fucking right to tell other people to fuck off! Who the fuck do you think you are?
    Who the fuck do you fucking think you are?!!
    I am fine with anyone who said they cant help, but with you, you are obviously rude and offending me!
    FUCK YOU! BASTARD!
    and like i said i am not complaining! If u can read well, and not blind, read all what i wrote, Moron! I was asking! Not complaining!
    And you are more than welcome not to answer MY THREAD!
    nobody asked you to.
    And dont write anything on this thread ever again unless you are a stupid and moron asshole who are just intentionally looking for fights and annoy and irritate and offend other people!
    What the fuck is wrong with you?
    All this time i WAS NOT EVEN TALKING TO YOU!
    So YOU, Get the FUCK OFF my THREAD!

    Thank you. No offend to the others. I am thankful to the others who posted their reply here and said truly unable to help. It is fine with me.

    Calm down and respect each other please! There’s no need to be abusive…

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