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    @Browner 430262 wrote:

    I heard this weekend this is cancelled folks Im afraid to say ;(

    Where’s the “thumbs down” button gone. 😥

    @Browner – you’re from our way, so please either tell us more or get someone from the event to let folk know what is happening, there are people from SE England and London planning to attend… if the licensing conditions were too much, don’t bury the bad news, speak openly about this as its only by open debate in public we have any chance of getting decent events back in East Anglia…

    Just got email, it’s cancelled. for fuck sakes.

    did they give any reasons?

    then it is continental europe again that gonne save the party summer….

    Due to licensing issues we are sad to announce that Symmetry Festival 2011 has been cancelled.

    ^^^

    I think that was put on just after poly got the email…

    I have tried to unearth more info from the Council area in where its usually held but this Council doesn’t put the Licensing committee meetings online..

    I don’t understand why as AFAIK it was a well run event, no one OD’d or got beaten or crashed their car etc, unless maybe they wanted later hours for music and the Council stubbornly refused so the promoters thought it wasn’t worth it..

    I just copy pasted it from the email I got. It’s all they say tho other then they are doing one next year for certain, plans allready being underway.

    ohhh well next years no good its all about this year! that was such a good festival aswell. ohwell, looks like i’ll be going on holliday instead which isnt so bad he he

    Looks like Cosmo has to be done then!

    a bit more research shows that the licensing area isn’t that far away from the two free parties where there was a stabbing and a kidnap/robbery – although neither incident was directly reported to cops they would have been aware of them due to the discussion on facebook and on here..

    cops and councils make no distinction between music genres and they don’t know and won’t second guess the type of crowd what could turn up – to them its just a “large gathering of young people” with all the attendant risks, so people holding licensed events get made to conform to more health and safety /security precautions”.

    @General Lighting 431024 wrote:

    a bit more research shows that the licensing area isn’t that far away from the two free parties where there was a stabbing and a kidnap/robbery – although neither incident was directly reported to cops they would have been aware of them due to the discussion on facebook and on here..

    cops and councils make no distinction between music genres and they don’t know and won’t second guess the type of crowd what could turn up – to them its just a “large gathering of young people” with all the attendant risks, so people holding licensed events get made to conform to more health and safety /security precautions”.

    Another festival ruined by fun killing prats. I’ve just got back from Prague and I went to a banging Tech D&B night in this quality venue called the cross club. It was loud as fuck ’till 6AM and the club is built in the bottom level of a block of flats. No complaints, nothing.

    I’ve been to several festivals around Europe too and the amount of freedom you have compared to the UK is crazy; 24hr music, no security breathing down your neck, and you can even park your car next to your tent rather than a ‘designated parking area’. :you_crazy

    It may seem crass to some people, but the music scene is slowly dying in the UK due to restrictions placed by curtain twitching cunts who have nothing better to do in their miserable, pathetic lives than to make up imaginary safety elements and ruin people’s fun because it doesn’t fit in with their socially conservative view of the world. Europe’s progressing while we’re left behind in a pathetic mess.

    Seems like I’ll be spending another summer in Europe!

    The attitude in some European countries (especially their city areas) is different because they are less affluent, dependent on tourism money and there is a more of a social and political consensus of tolerating nightlife. Unfortunately these also seem to be the poorer countries – fun to party in, not so fun to live in (after all if they were there wouldn’t be so many folk from these same nations migrating to UK for work!).

    Its the same reason why for instance you can get a 4am-6am license in Yarmouth but there isn’t a single club in Southwold…

    Somewhere like EA is bitterly divided. I have recently started supporting the Green Party, who support both recreational drugs decriminalisation and safe and fun nightlife (after all its more eco-friendly and safe for folk to party in their own region than travel 200 miles every weekend!)

    However many folk here still vote Tory (which leads to councils such as Norwich being politically deadlocked) and worse, there is a lot of support for extreme right wing parties. And so many others won’t forgive or forget the fallout from EA being the 1990s hub of the rave scene.

    As for richer European nations, many middle classes of even formerly liberal ones such as NL and DE and FR are now starting to blindly follow the UK – they think that our businesses/economy are doing better than them (it isn’t true but for some reason they believe this).

    I was reading Le Monde (a French newspaper) and they were bigging up the London business/property markets even though they are just as fucked as in France, and folk supposedly have a better quality fo life in France…

    This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of “health and safety problems” – in recent years right wing paranoia has caused a lot of events in the Netherlands to be restricted. This has caused the remaining ones to be blighted by overcrowding and violent incidents, also as there are no borders a lot of NL folk went to Loveparade which had also been moved from Berlin to some other place on cost grounds, and corners also cut with crowd safety (which Germans are normally good at) – leading to the even getting overcrowded and the tragedy in 2010..

    @General Lighting 431170 wrote:

    The attitude in some European countries (especially their city areas) is different because they are less affluent, dependent on tourism money and there is a more of a social and political consensus of tolerating nightlife. Unfortunately these also seem to be the poorer countries – fun to party in, not so fun to live in (after all if they were there wouldn’t be so many folk from these same nations migrating to UK for work!).

    Its the same reason why for instance you can get a 4am-6am license in Yarmouth but there isn’t a single club in Southwold…

    Somewhere like EA is bitterly divided. I have recently started supporting the Green Party, who support both recreational drugs decriminalisation and safe and fun nightlife (after all its more eco-friendly and safe for folk to party in their own region than travel 200 miles every weekend!)

    However many folk here still vote Tory (which leads to councils such as Norwich being politically deadlocked) and worse, there is a lot of support for extreme right wing parties. And so many others won’t forgive or forget the fallout from EA being the 1990s hub of the rave scene.

    As for richer European nations, many middle classes of even formerly liberal ones such as NL and DE and FR are now starting to blindly follow the UK – they think that our businesses/economy are doing better than them (it isn’t true but for some reason they believe this).

    I was reading Le Monde (a French newspaper) and they were bigging up the London business/property markets even though they are just as fucked as in France, and folk supposedly have a better quality fo life in France…

    This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy of “health and safety problems” – in recent years right wing paranoia has caused a lot of events in the Netherlands to be restricted. This has caused the remaining ones to be blighted by overcrowding and violent incidents, also as there are no borders a lot of NL folk went to Loveparade which had also been moved from Berlin to some other place on cost grounds, and corners also cut with crowd safety (which Germans are normally good at) – leading to the even getting overcrowded and the tragedy in 2010..

    Understood, but even festivals in Germany are granted 24hr music licsencing, have little security, can go on for more than 3 days and cost a third of what you pay in the UK for much, much less. It’ll be a shame if this changes though!

    It’s strange how you speak about people moving from eastern europe to the UK; when I visit there I want to move there. I know there is less social security and life can be tough, but I think it’s a fair trade for relative freedom and to ability to experience their beautiful attittude towards life every day. Fuck the money, I’d choose a simpler life away from Conservative eyes any day (I intend to once I finish my studies). Anyway, I’m moving off topic so I’ll leave it there!

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