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@Tank Girl 410863 wrote:

depends what they are on and what time of day they take them etc = but to be honest they are usually good at motivating people / just getting some balance back to then start working on why they depressed in the first place and if you dont want to get better medication or not you aint gonna improve – and depends on whether your taking other substances such as alcohol or ……

if you dont sort the origional source of the problem medication in the long run aint gonna cure it
it can help to a point for a lot of people – and you cant judge something on a handful of samples –

but the mind is a wonderful thing and depression incorporates every aspect of our lives – and sometimes a medication can not solveour social situation or our relationships or our childhood traumas etc
tallkin therapy is the best way forewards = but some people need medication to even get them in a place where they can do this

and I’ve seen people which such clinical depression – they are laying in their own muck, not eating – drinking etc etc and not attending to any of their basic needs

bearing in mind what I’ve done for the last 14 years – i’ve seen wonderful things happen and some not so wonderful things on a daily basis with regards to medication – so dont think I am championing it – everyone and every situation is individual

Na I’m the same … but in reverse … I’m not saing it’s 100% bad .. there are people that actualy benifit from certain meds … but they are just handed out like sweets to people that it can make worce. I’ve had several friends have serious problems from taking meds they have been prescribed so am slightly biast … I do know they help some people.

yeah, mandy was used in reasonble/very sucessful psychoactive treatment and rehabilitation.

@DaftFader 410854 wrote:

Zotapine .. my mate used to take it poor fucker .. i tried it once to see what he was going through … and it’s not a nice experiance … he was taking it every day and was literaly confined to his sofa/bed/floor

I dont know what this is ?

quetiapine maybe?

but the thing with anti psychotics is – you should actually be psychotic for them to work and not knock you out

so

I know very poorly people who are walking around on 375mg say – where if I took it (not being psychotic) 25mg would floor me

does that make sense?

and I’d go back to the prescriber – and I wouldnt trust a GP to prescribe anti psychotics – but I would a psychiatrist – but we also have a choice what we put in our bodies –

unless sectioned –

and if I didnt agree with what I was taking or felt like a zombie – I would have to question – do I actually need this medication – what am I getting from it / why am I taking it?

if I needed something to calm me down as I am hearing voices and thinking the tv is talking to me and the radio commenting on my every move – may be I would continutue to take it – if I didnt I would ask for a medication review!!!

@LysergicAcid 410874 wrote:

i asked for a certain amount of moneys worth and he put them on a tone of biscuits and i thought he had ripped me off. so in anger i ate most of them thinking what a prick…

but i was wrong. but maybe i dident i dunno but the trip was so intense and long lasting i was sure of it. the intense part of the blotting paper was the feeling i got after 20 minutes eating the biscuits.

how long did it last?

@DaftFader 410867 wrote:

but they are just handed out like sweets

completely agree – but after they prescribed we then choose to take them!

and MDMA

was used very effectivly in relationship / sexual abuse / rape and PTSD psychodynamic therapy
as one could be empathetic but not connect completely to their emmotions so it was ‘safer’ and allowed them to talk about the horrific experiences with out reliving them

there is still research going into their effectivness although it is difficult to get ‘medical MDMA’ for research = Proff Nutt was really interesting talking about this when I last heard him in lundin