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August 31, 2007 at 8:33 pm

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General Lighting

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globalloon wrote:

if we can do that, the riot-heads can be alienated altogether and we could win back some respect and more importantly, freedom

In some areas of France they have downsized the amount of bureaucracy needed to get parties held under their equivalent of TENS, this is a fellow EU country just next door to us so no reason why this couldn’t eventually happen here as well..
August 31, 2007 at 9:52 pm

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it might also be worth mentioning that many local authorities have or are in the process of licensing their land / public spaces etc

so, for example, I’m organising a 1-day community festival at the moment… i don’t have to even apply for a license, just permission to use the land (this involves showing public liability insurance, safety measures, who is responsible for clearing up etc) and is free

we’re anticipating a couple of thousand people, will have live bands, DJ & MC workshops, headline acts, circus, fun fair etc and have tapped into grants available to any community group to cover the costs

this is a good way to get your local council to get on board… i realise that it will be harder in some areas (we’re lucky in Exeter to have a fairly forward-thinking council) but this kind of thing is worth the effort… bear in mind the amount of work involved in throwing a free party and the potential risks… this is like a walk in the park… or a festival in the park: t be more precise raaa
August 31, 2007 at 9:53 pm

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globalloon

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General Lighting wrote:

In some areas of France they have downsized the amount of bureaucracy needed to get parties held under their equivalent of TENS, this is a fellow EU country just next door to us so no reason why this couldn’t eventually happen here as well..

IME the paperwork for a TEN is minimal
October 5, 2007 at 11:44 am

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binge

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Interesting stuff. Although not sure if I want to risk it in this currant climate.
October 5, 2007 at 12:08 pm

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General Lighting

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binge wrote:

Interesting stuff. Although not sure if I want to risk it in this currant climate.

Planet Yes have already used TENS in Norfolk for their halloween event. I attended this and found it no different to a free party (OK slightly more “Pams House” type of people maybe but the atmosphere was still good)

Even the Suffolk cops and councils have hinted they would accept licensed events

I expect they wouldn’t be pushovers with regard to safety/licensing conditions and it would be a fair bit of effort, but the outcome seems better to me than 70 riot cops shutting down parties and confiscating rigs.

OK the hearts and minds bit may not be easy due to past mistakes but what is actually holding people back?

Is it “fear of babylon” or more that EA ravers at present simply lack the organisational skills, discipline and comradeship required to even apply for such an event – or if one were to happen (some) perhaps couldn’t be trusted to behave appropriately, so the more sensible people don’t want to put their names on the line?
June 11, 2008 at 12:57 pm

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All Ways Acid

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Im seriously interested in these tens notices.
we got access to rig, djs, alcohol licence holder, just need a barn in cornwall with good access, and ill give it a go. Any ideas??
watch this space!
June 11, 2008 at 2:37 pm

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globalloon

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@All Ways Acid! 221585 wrote:

Im seriously interested in these tens notices.
we got access to rig, djs, alcohol licence holder, just need a barn in cornwall with good access, and ill give it a go. Any ideas??
watch this space!

or a friendly campsite owner?
July 28, 2008 at 4:52 pm

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All Ways Acid

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yep i know a couple a campsite owners, trouble is the neighbours!!:laugh_at:
August 4, 2008 at 3:22 pm

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funkydan

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how would you go about getting a larger liscence for events such as festivals?
August 4, 2008 at 4:00 pm

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General Lighting

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funkydan;230002 wrote:

how would you go about getting a larger liscence for events such as festivals?

you have to pay full whack (about £600-£800 whether or not the app is succesful) and attend a series of meetings with cops, fire brigade etc

bear in mind though 500 people is a lot of people especially for a new crew to start with and a TENS can allow up to 96 hours of partying. Most raves I have been to in East Anglia have about 200-250 people tops and a lot less than that normally…
August 4, 2008 at 7:11 pm

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funkydan

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do you have certain noise regrulations with a tens license, and would that be 96 hours worth of music?
August 4, 2008 at 7:16 pm

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General Lighting

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funkydan;230034 wrote:

do you have certain noise regrulations with a tens license, and would that be 96 hours worth of music?

both depend on your planned location

most Councils have their own “noise bands” which change depending on how far or near you are to residential areas

for instance Councils in a rural bit of Breckland or North Norfolk would (I hope!) give more leeway than in Norwich city centre

if your target venue is near to houses the authorities may ask for a music curfew at 03:00 – 04:00

TBH I wouldn’t go for 96 of music hours first time round as you are unlikely to get it, it would be a fairly stressful thing to pull of and if you fuck up you could get breached same as if it were an illegal – but its been tried and tested in some part of Norfolk in October 2006 and that event certainly went on from Saturday until Sunday afternoon without a break..
November 6, 2008 at 3:58 am

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Redhouse

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TENS objections:

The licencing authority can only object to a TENS if they are satisfied any limits outlined in the application will be exceeded, in other words make sure the TENS application covers absolutely everything you intend to do and that the time and date deadlines are sufficient to cover the event.

The only other authority that can object to a TENS are The Police and only on the grounds that the event could undermine the crime prevention obective of licencing. The objection must be made no later than 48 hours after the chief of police is given a copy of the TENS.

The licencing authority must hold a hearing for any objections and the only persons permitted to address the hearing are lawyers acting on behalf of either party, the authority objecting (police), the licencing authority and the applicant – breach of these terms becomes a case for The High Court. Whichever party ‘loses’ the hearing HAS THE RIGHT OF APPEAL to a magistrates court, but this must not be within 5 days of the event taking place. THIS IS A LEGALLY BINDING RIGHT, AFFORDED BY THE LAWS OF ENGLAND AND WALES AND CANNOT BE WITHELD, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE HEARING CAN BE HELD IN GOOD TIME; therefore the licencing authority must make sure there is sufficient time for an appeal to be logged, otherwise they are in serious breach of their legal responsibilities.

As stated a TENS must be submitted 10 working days before the event. Be careful because weekends, bank holidays and some special holidays (i.e. easter) are not classed as working days. Legally a working day begins 00:00hours and ends one minute past 23:59 hours, the TENS can be submitted anytime in this period, but be sure to get a signed reciept and pay the fee. Even if it is 5:29pm on a friday afternoon and the licencing officer was just leaving for the weekend they are obliged by law to accept the TENS, the payment and issue a reciept – a note, they probably won’t be too happy if you did this though.

Hope that helps too. 🙂
May 8, 2009 at 2:08 pm

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Fett

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General Lighting;167866 wrote:

…OK the hearts and minds bit may not be easy due to past mistakes but what is actually holding people back?

Is it “fear of babylon” or more that EA ravers at present simply lack the organisational skills, discipline and comradeship required to even apply for such an event – or if one were to happen (some) perhaps couldn’t be trusted to behave appropriately, so the more sensible people don’t want to put their names on the line?

I had always thought the cops, council etc in EA were zero tolerance to every thing remotely resembling a rave, it has really got me interested now i know that there is a legal, and cheap way to do an event.

I am very much up for giving it a go, General Lighting.. would you be up for a collaboration? – i’ll do all the donkey work, you can be my advisor.

What ya reckon? :bigsmile:
May 8, 2009 at 2:16 pm

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General Lighting

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Fett;325576 wrote:

I had always thought the cops, council etc in EA were zero tolerance to every thing remotely resembling a rave, it has really got me interested now i know that there is a legal, and cheap way to do an event.

I am very much up for giving it a go, General Lighting.. would you be up for a collaboration? – i’ll do all the donkey work, you can be my advisor.

What ya reckon? :bigsmile:

yep I’d be up for that… and there’s loads of people round our way particularly the older lot what would be up for attending a decent event – will send you a PM..
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