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@Lshak 541042 wrote:
Yes we are relatively lucky but I think what’s to come and if a ww3 happens in our life time, it will be unthinkable
It’s very difficult to imagine a ww3 happening, considering that most of the major players depend on each other economically nowadays. Couple that with the threat of mutually assured destruction and I doubt you’ll see something on that scale.
Time is a healer, things seem worse because they are recent in the memory. If you look at incidents in terms of numbers killed/injured nowadays, it doesnt even compare.
One of the biggest incidents in the 21st century is still 9/11, and the death count was 3,000. In years gone by an incident where 3,000 died would still of made the news, but it certainly would not have been an ‘all channel’ stopper. Actually im not too sure this is true, as it seems that 3,000 deaths within a western country is much more of a big deal than 3,000,000 in a country people have never heard of. :/
@Savvydravvy 541063 wrote:
Time is a healer, things seem worse because they are recent in the memory. If you look at incidents in terms of numbers killed/injured nowadays, it doesnt even compare.
One of the biggest incidents in the 21st century is still 9/11, and the death count was 3,000. In years gone by an incident where 3,000 died would still of made the news, but it certainly would not have been an ‘all channel’ stopper. Actually im not too sure this is true, as it seems that 3,000 deaths within a western country is much more of a big deal than 3,000,000 in a country people have never heard of. :/
Well Syria and the middle east in general tend to be big news. The thing is it’s generally more shocking when things happen closer to home, especially if it’s somewhere where people you know live. With things like 9/11 I know plenty of people who were literally on the street when the planes hit. I don’t know anyone who lives in Iraq. But when I meet people who have stakes in what is happening you often learn stuff that the news doesn’t tend to touch upon. A mate of mine has family in Syria who are strong opponents against Al-Asad and through him I’ve learned a lot about the conflict I wouldn’t have known otherwise.
But you also have to try to analyse everything objectively, which is hard if not downright impossible. There’s a reason for everything. Even crazy fucked up shit like 9/11 or the Holocaust, you can seek to understand the motivations behind it. It’s just important to remember that “understanding” is not the same as “siding with.” I understand why terrorists target the US and other western countries, I understand why the Soviets and Americans played a game of “change the regime” during the Cold War, but it doesn’t mean I condone any of those things. Understanding is the first step towards solving.
Even within our country that closer to home analogy works. Tragedies in London are always blown out of proportion compared to happenings elsewhere in England, and the UK.
@barrettone 541065 wrote:
you can seek to understand the motivations behind it. It’s just important to remember that “understanding” is not the same as “siding with.” I understand why terrorists target the US and other western countries, I understand why the Soviets and Americans played a game of “change the regime” during the Cold War, but it doesn’t mean I condone any of those things. Understanding is the first step towards solving.
This.
@Lshak 541042 wrote:
Yes we are relatively lucky but I think what’s to come and if a ww3 happens in our life time, it will be unthinkable
Well your clearly thinking about it so cant be unthinkable
How do you define a war as a world war anyways, does it have to be on every continent ( If so WW1+2 dont count, dont recall any Nazi’s invading Antarctica ), does it have to involve every country in the world ( again WW1+2 didnt, many countries remained neutral ), does to have to determine the fate of every country ( WW2 might fall into this category, but WW1 wouldnt have )…………. what is a world war ???
@Mezz 541072 wrote:
Well your clearly thinking about it so cant be unthinkable
How do you define a war as a world war anyways, does it have to be on every continent ( If so WW1+2 dont count, dont recall any Nazi’s invading Antarctica ), does it have to involve every country in the world ( again WW1+2 didnt, many countries remained neutral ), does to have to determine the fate of every country ( WW2 might fall into this category, but WW1 wouldnt have )…………. what is a world war ???
WW1 was huge man. And I think world wars usually get called so after the fact, so we’d not know. I’d imagine in today’s climate it would involve 4 our more “great powers” against each other. The reason WW2 was called so were because their theatre of operations spanned every continent (minus South America, though German u-boats patrolled that part of the atlantic.) WW1 was called that because of the amount of great nations involved, and the fact they all had huge empires, and the amount of lives lost.
@barrettone 541076 wrote:
WW1 was huge man. And I think world wars usually get called so after the fact, so we’d not know. I’d imagine in today’s climate it would involve 4 our more “great powers” against each other. The reason WW2 was called so were because their theatre of operations spanned every continent (minus South America, though German u-boats patrolled that part of the atlantic.) WW1 was called that because of the amount of great nations involved, and the fact they all had huge empires, and the amount of lives lost.
If it’s just down to the number of ‘great nations’ of the day ( however you define them ) then I recon the Napoleonic wars would be world wars, so we’d already have had WW1,2&3, if it was down to % of population loss many wars in early history would count, and if it was every continent then terrorist wars would count since they can attack anywhere regardless of borders.
Wonder what would have happened if Britain had allied with Germany ( which apparently Hitler wanted early on ), the US would probably have remained isolationist & neutral, without the western front & western support the Soviets would have fallen, the Japanese would not have attacked pearl harbour without the oil embargo but would probably have still have attacked British colonies in the far east. Nuclear weapons would still have been developed but the cold war might have been between Europe & the US………
Not saying this would have been a good thing, but certainly a weird alternative history
@Mezz 541081 wrote:
If it’s just down to the number of ‘great nations’ of the day ( however you define them ) then I recon the Napoleonic wars would be world wars, so we’d already have had WW1,2&3, if it was down to % of population loss many wars in early history would count, and if it was every continent then terrorist wars would count since they can attack anywhere regardless of borders.
Wonder what would have happened if Britain had allied with Germany ( which apparently Hitler wanted early on ), the US would probably have remained isolationist & neutral, without the western front & western support the Soviets would have fallen, the Japanese would not have attacked pearl harbour without the oil embargo but would probably have still have attacked British colonies in the far east. Nuclear weapons would still have been developed but the cold war might have been between Europe & the US………
Not saying this would have been a good thing, but certainly a weird alternative history
Maybe in an alternate universe that did happen, and there’s an alien sitting there channel hopping between the different alternate universes.
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@Savvydravvy 541091 wrote:
“Stop pikking up on all my shit grammer, you grammer Yank!”
LOL! Quality mate, love it!
@Savvydravvy 541063 wrote:
Time is a healer, things seem worse because they are recent in the memory. If you look at incidents in terms of numbers killed/injured nowadays, it doesnt even compare.
One of the biggest incidents in the 21st century is still 9/11, and the death count was 3,000. In years gone by an incident where 3,000 died would still of made the news, but it certainly would not have been an ‘all channel’ stopper. Actually im not too sure this is true, as it seems that 3,000 deaths within a western country is much more of a big deal than 3,000,000 in a country people have never heard of. :/
Very true, I was gonna say, the 2 in Boston was bigger than the everyday life in other countries… It’s terrible…
@Lshak 541204 wrote:
Very true, I was gonna say, the 2 in Boston was bigger than the everyday life in other countries… It’s terrible…
I havent looked into it, but I would bet more more died in street fights or robberies on the same day and everyday in the US
Dont mean to belittle the bombing, this a tragic waste of life for no reason, but people get desensitised to things that happen daily, bombings dont make headlines because of the numbers that die, they make the headlines because they are uncommon.
The number of people who die each year in car accidents is over 1.5 million worldwide.
And the UK alone is 3500.
Article Source: Car Accidents in the UK
Mezz is proper jokes YANNO! Dunno why you want to see destruction so much… Why on earth you want to see N Korea nuke USA is beyond me!? Like you posted in another thread like you were against USA and for N.K? I think USA is corrupt but they’re nothing on the poverty, brainwashing and properganda of that messed up commie country. They even edit history that’s some Orwell shit right there. I think you watch too many bullshit conspiracy videos on youtubezzzzz. I think you just get a boner for this type of news, you should look into that. If not check out David Icke, there’s Lizard people living in the moon
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