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How much are you ripping people off for this year, Im sorry, I mean charging for a ticket?
to be fair most of that money is supposed to cover Emergency Services costs, and even the authorities don’t make a profit off it as the last few glades managed to fill up a few ambulances and hospital beds with overdose casualties, in recent years particularly from mephedrone.
I know some of the NHS folk who have to look after the fraggles in the mid Noughties, and have also read the full reports about the last few events.
Thankfully everyone survived and made a full recovery, but this is extra work for NHS they wouldn’t have if the festival didn’t happen, it was them as well as the OB who expressed concerns and it seems fair that they should have an opportunity to recover their costs rather than everyone else in SE England who didn’t enjoy the party have to pay for it…
I think its too much myself – and vote with my wallet by not going. A lot of my friends from EA do go but I’ve long passed the stage of spending more than a month’s mortgage payments on a night out..
I still remember how acrimoniously the original Glade split the SE England free party crews as some had a lot more input into it and it was viewed as a “sell out” to the cops as opposed to doing illegal raves…
Most of the big party crews in the south of England had already ceased or moved out before the Glade came along. There certainly isn’t any free party collective that I know of that could have staged an event as big as this anymore.
That’s what made the Glade so good for me, once Exodus had stopped there were no big parties left until this came along. And it’s legal, that’s a massive bonus.
Was the hospitalisation rate really that bad though? I mean more so than any other party?
YES AMEN TO THAT! :bounce_fl
Was absolutely gutted when it was cancelled last year, me and a few mates were heading there. This will make my summer! :love:
@caned_monkey 412457 wrote:
Was the hospitalisation rate really that bad though? I mean more so than any other party?
It was pretty high even in the context of music based events – although casualties are not unecommon with all such events. Bear in mind all these casualties present to the Emergency Department of the nearest hospital – as well as the other ones caused by a weekend of hedonism in the area – so the NHS do actually need to put in extra resources whenever a large festival takes place in a certain area.
So repeated casualties at any event results in (not surprisingly!) objections to the event taking place, or if the Council think its OK a a request by the Emergency Services in that area for a larger contribution to their costs,
For large public events the organisers have to thrash out a deal with the licensing committe which is usually the Council and a Joint Emergency Services Committee – all 3 services, but as the Police are the primary Emergency Service at all major incidents the request for extra funds gets dumbed down by the music press as “extra Police costs”.
the harsh reality is an existing culture of prolonged poly-drug use from the mid-Noughties was already causing issues, then mephedrone and other legal highs really brought things on top.. not just at glade but lots of other licensed events.
@General Lighting 412485 wrote:
the harsh reality is an existing culture of prolonged poly-drug use from the mid-Noughties was already causing issues, then mephedrone and other legal highs really brought things on top.. not just at glade but lots of other licensed events.
Yeah i hear you on this one, around about the beginning of the decade there seemd to be a change in trend of drug use. Whilst everying in the nineties was all trips and e’s, the noughties have largley been about about k and coke.
i could bang on for hours about why this was a bad thing but they changed the scene irreporably due to the differences in the way people felt and behaved whilst on them. Ravers went from being seen as smily happy hippy types which people were much more likely to tolerate, to fucked up yobs, making parties unfriendly and daunting events to those looking in from outside.
And dont even get me started on these new legal highs, i know its a lot to do with age but i wouldnt even touch most of them. the ironic thing is that i think to myself, you dont even know what youre taking but then thats what my mum used to say to me when she saw the state of me after a night on one. i dont know about anyone else but when someone sells something as wheel trim cleaner, even if that is a blag, theres no way im going to take it. like i said ironic, cos when i was 18 i would have taken anything put in front of me.
thanks for the explanation though, it puts it into perspective for me as to why last years was cancelled.
@caned_monkey 412548 wrote:
Yeah i hear you on this one, around about the beginning of the decade there seemd to be a change in trend of drug use. Whilst everying in the nineties was all trips and e’s, the noughties have largley been about about k and coke.
i could bang on for hours about why this was a bad thing but they changed the scene irreporably due to the differences in the way people felt and behaved whilst on them. Ravers went from being seen as smily happy hippy types which people were much more likely to tolerate, to fucked up yobs, making parties unfriendly and daunting events to those looking in from outside.
And dont even get me started on these new legal highs, i know its a lot to do with age but i wouldnt even touch most of them. the ironic thing is that i think to myself, you dont even know what youre taking but then thats what my mum used to say to me when she saw the state of me after a night on one. i dont know about anyone else but when someone sells something as wheel trim cleaner, even if that is a blag, theres no way im going to take it. like i said ironic, cos when i was 18 i would have taken anything put in front of me.
thanks for the explanation though, it puts it into perspective for me as to why last years was cancelled.
Yes yes yes!! OK along with many other factors, money being the biggest… but I believe K and coke ruined the club scene and completely changing the music.
How they mix with alcohol is also a big issue. I don’t know about anyone else but I hardly ever feel like drinking when I’m on e, it makes my stomach churn. But with K or coke, mixed with alcohol, you stand a very good chance of ending up in a ditch, in a fight or in A&E.
[FONT="]The music has also gone much darker and minimal. No hands in the air or anything like that.
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When I first started going clubbing there were the drinkers and the clubbers…
You never saw anyone drink alcohol in clubs…
The drinks industry didn’t like this, then along came alcopops…
I hate minimal! Leave it to the K lovers and let them drown in their own dribble
Alcohol clubs were usually in the town centres, closed at 2 am and had a kebab van and a riot van outside.
The proper clubs tended to be a bit more out of the way, bottled water ruled supreme and the worst thing that could happen to you was a sweaty hug from a fat stranger.
TBH most of the “proper” clubs were also drinking clubs at one point (my parents used to work in one) but at the same time the rave scene started, the traffic cops became more strict about busting people for drinking and driving – so these suddently got converted into “nice friendly places which didn’t cause trouble” and were thus briefly tolerated by the Councils etc.
I agree they were indeed friendly places for the punters but a goldmine for dealers so turf wars eventually became common and this soured the atmosphere. Also most ravers were in reality a bit of nightmare to their family, bosses, educators etc during the midweek comedown, being sketchy, snappy and irritable, in some cases this led to serious family arguments, domestic violence and poor performance at work, which the rest of society picked up on…
However in the late 1990s there was still plenty of good MDMA and in fact the scene made a bit of a resurgence. During this era it seemed like people just wanted to binge on anything they could rather than be friendly, and then people openly chose to take coke or K in preference to MDMA as it was “old fashioned/uncool” to be friendly (for instance the illegal raves in East Anglia got a load of stick for being too “fluffy”)…
I can’t even remember the last time I had a comedown. But you’re right back in the day… I could never make work on a Monday. Jeez my comedowns were horrendous. But that was when I took speed *shudders*
yeah K deffo ruined the rave sceen imo as well … I’ve been to so many rave’s where the majority of people can’t even talk and are lying in a pile of rubish. (you used to get the odd one but fucking everyone’s like that allmost now days at most raves!).
You find it’s music orientated as well … what I mean by that is i’ve been to a psy party b4 .. and the 2 psy rooms were having it .. and you had, for some unknown reason, a dubstep room there too … and EVERYONE in the dubstep room bar about 5 people were all lyeing on the floor K o’d. madness!
Wow so k and coke killed the rave scene, bullshit IMO.
So that means that pills were the only thing that could make people have a good time together, pretty SHIT state of affairs if you believe that.
PS Minimal is fat :p
If you don’t like the music or the drugs don’t ever fucking go to the parties simple. maybe the fact that you don’t enjoy it is due to you being the party pooper not everyone else.
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