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@DaftFader 412591 wrote:
yeah K deffo ruined the rave sceen imo as well … I’ve been to so many rave’s where the majority of people can’t even talk and are lying in a pile of rubish. (you used to get the odd one but fucking everyone’s like that allmost now days at most raves!).
You find it’s music orientated as well … what I mean by that is i’ve been to a psy party b4 .. and the 2 psy rooms were having it .. and you had, for some unknown reason, a dubstep room there too … and EVERYONE in the dubstep room bar about 5 people were all lyeing on the floor K o’d. madness!
I don’t think that was the K!!!!
DUBSTEP!!
its not individual drugs which are the real problem but changing social attitudes.
K and coke were around in the 1990s too, particularly towards the end of the decade. Its only very recently that nightlife – everything from “townie” pubs and bars to legal and illegal raves – has been going seriously downhill and its not really because of drugs, its because lots of people are deep down very angry and uncertain about the future, often with good reason, and England is more socially divided than ever before. So naturally people form cliques and are hostile to other groups.
At some raves (irrespective of what drugs anyone has taken), someone trying to chat to strangers and be friendly is be viewed with suspicion and ridicule (even if they are sober!). OTOH I’ve been spending more time in pubs and people at the real ale pubs are as friendly as raves once used to be – and its not an age thing as many of them are younger than me…
I’d like to know peoples definition of the rave scene being dead. does that mean that YOU don’t enjoy it?
or does it means that it wasn’t how it used to be!! times change doesn’t mean it’s dead. it’s like old people who have a fear of using new technology ‘back in my dayyyyyy’
Diferant drugs have diferant effects. I’ve been to rave’s totaly sober b4 and still been having it – if I had done K however would of been alot less likely to of been able to keep dancing/socialising as much as I managed sober (alltho a wee dab of mdma would of done the ticket! :laugh_at:). It’s more to do with peoples attitudes then the drugs … as after all, people will take a drug that suits them .. and in order for some one to prefer a certain drug to another .. they have to be in a certain mind set in the first place.
Alltho in saing that you have to contend with certain drugs adictiveness … I think alot of the people that take alot of k at the start of a rave and b4 it most likely are addicted but alot of the time abit like when ravers use heroin for comedowns. This stems from using k to either boost the floaty effects (h not used for this) of mdma and/or taking k for comedowns like I used to.
Now I’m not saing this is true for everyone … as blanket rules never aply imo, but I’ve seen this apply to more then one friend and to alot of people i’ve met out raving in the past.
@ the rave sceen being dead … I half agree half don’t. I used to go out raving loads .. and most of the night’s were really special’ met loads of cool people … but in recent years past 2-3 especialy the mood has totaly changed at the majority of raves i venture out to. The music’s changed and got alot darker in certain styles … and unfortunatly this draws in “dark minded” people. You used to get D+B raves full of smiling people like it was a happy hardcore party! :laugh_at:. Now you’re very lucky to find a D+B party that’s not got alot of attituded! It never used to be like that … it still happened .. there will allways be dark minded people .. just i think over the years some of the oldskool have got jaded and “the new skool” goto raves with a diferant mind set.
Again I don’t wanna generalise … it just is more aparent .. not 100% blanket rule.
I have only been to a few raves, unfortunately the most recent was easter bank holiday down near portsmouth, but that was VERY VERY well mannered.
Lots of different drugs were being taken by everyone and yet i didn’t meet anyone in a bad/unfriendly mood. Sure there were a couple of people stuck in a K-hole on the floor but there were 5/6 rigs pumping out good music from all corners. Acid house – hardcore – drum+bass – dubstep – trance. I for one had an amazing night!
Now im very young and dont know what the rave scene used to be like ‘back in the day’ but the only fight i saw was someone trying to beat up the speakers with his frosty jacks bottle :laugh_at:
I would happily go to ANY party/rave, that is legal/illegal irrespective, should the attitude be like that.
:group_hug
guess it has alot to do with location as well thinking about it … london can be a pretty harsh place at times.
@p0ly 412592 wrote:
Wow so k and coke killed the rave scene, bullshit IMO.
So that means that pills were the only thing that could make people have a good time together, pretty SHIT state of affairs if you believe that.
PS Minimal is fat :p
If you don’t like the music or the drugs don’t ever fucking go to the parties simple. maybe the fact that you don’t enjoy it is due to you being the party pooper not everyone else.
You can’t pinpoint what changed the clubscene and I said said k & coke were amongst many factors…
I don’t care if I am one of those people that say it was better back in the day. To me… I’m right 😉 But I know I look back with rose tinted glasses.
I still love parties. They are just different now. I love/hate K but not in a club. It isn’t a very sociable drug. But drugs affect people differently. I would never look down on someone because they were in a hole. FFS I’ve done it often enough.
Saying all that… I do worry it is me becoming old 🙁
perhaps the more important question is why anyone thought the party scene would stay the same? when in fairness it was more in a state of constant evolution.
@1984 412728 wrote:
perhaps the more important question is why anyone thought the party scene would stay the same? when in fairness it was more in a state of constant evolution.
You would hope it would get better though.
Another factor is simply that the whole idea of raves simply isnt fashionable anymore. In the middle of the nineties the mid week discussion would be where are we going this weekend. the choice was so large that youd quite often go to two or three events in one weekend. Now, its a case of is there anything to go to this weekend?
Personally i could never understand why going to parties would ever fall out of fashion as it was so much fun. but you have to accept that the kids that come after, by their very nature, dont want to do the same thing we did. all the kids want to be different even if that different is the same as everyone else their age.
Unfortunatley the new idea of raving isnt very appealing to the majority of people anymore 😥
@Lt Luna 412568 wrote:
I can’t even remember the last time I had a comedown. But you’re right back in the day… I could never make work on a Monday. Jeez my comedowns were horrendous. But that was when I took speed *shudders*
I share that shudder… it makes me feel dirty just thinking about it :yakk:
I think another reason is that there was a bigger age gap between the ravers and folk in positions of real authority and power (cops, council officials, politicians etc). so the old folk were initially caught totally unawares by the whole scene and had no idea really how it worked or how to suppress it.
nowadays many of these authority figures are our age, and some were once party people themselves, saw their own peers have negative experiences, and want to control this culture, in many cases as much out of genuine shame at some of the things what went on in the past rather than out of spite or any conspiracies…
@General Lighting 412806 wrote:
I think another reason is that there was a bigger age gap between the ravers and folk in positions of real authority and power (cops, council officials, politicians etc). so the old folk were initially caught totally unawares by the whole scene and had no idea really how it worked or how to suppress it.
nowadays many of these authority figures are our age, and some were once party people themselves, saw their own peers have negative experiences, and want to control this culture, in many cases as much out of genuine shame at some of the things what went on in the past rather than out of spite or any conspiracies…
Interesting, what’s your opinion GL?
Do parties like this still exist?
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