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July 14, 2013 at 11:07 pm

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Lshak

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so… any opinions are welcomed…

what would happen in differentiation if someone who was incredibly righteous their entire life and spiritual their entire life had a profound psychedelic spiritual experience over someone that was very sinister and evil their entire life, murdering and thieving, yet still spiritual…

would they be greeted by a different entity, showing them different ways of life…?

would a more demonic entity show themselves to the sinister being, where an enlightening entity would come to the self righteous?
July 14, 2013 at 11:51 pm

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go and see a psychiatrist please!
July 15, 2013 at 1:13 am

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know_hope

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how does spiritual murdering and thieving work out then?
July 15, 2013 at 3:04 am

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Pat McDonald

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There is some evidence that some of the Christian saints were “tormented” by their hidden and repressed desires. In the form of women needing sex in at least one case.

I’m pretty sure Bhudda’s revelation about desire being at the root of all iniquity and injustice might have a similar bearing.

So no, just because you get a “bad” entitiy versus a “good” entity doesn’t mean you yourself are necessarily good or bad.

Actually most people are kind of grey. Usually good but with a hidden survival instinct to keep them alive (and fight for their own corner).
July 15, 2013 at 3:37 am

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The Psyentist

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I think a person’s reaction to any psychedelic can’t really be predicted until it has happened. Yeah for some psys and tryptamines the experience can be influenced my many factors but you can never determine how that person will react to said experience.
July 15, 2013 at 9:39 am

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Chrispydelic

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There are no hard and fast rules. It makes no difference how you live your life to what sort of hallucinations you may have. Hallucinations are the product of your subconscious but are reflected by mood rather than whether you are a “good” or “bad” person.

When people (myself included) report talking with entities what they are actually in contact with is their subconscious. It is the brain’s clever way of being able to impart some idea to the conscious which would normally be locked deep in the subconscious.
July 15, 2013 at 10:44 am

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MC G-Tek

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@Lshak 552014 wrote:

would a more demonic entity show themselves to the sinister being, where an enlightening entity would come to the self righteous?

The self-righteous? Like these guys you mean?
July 15, 2013 at 1:51 pm

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Pat McDonald

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@Chrispydelic 552047 wrote:

When people (myself included) report talking with entities what they are actually in contact with is their subconscious. It is the brain’s clever way of being able to impart some idea to the conscious which would normally be locked deep in the subconscious.

Conjectural. You cannot prove this in every single case.

In other words, people’s subconcious might communicate and interact with each (but the conscious mind wouldn’t necessarily be aware of that).
July 15, 2013 at 2:07 pm

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Chrispydelic

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@Pat McDonald 552075 wrote:

Conjectural. You cannot prove this in every single case.

In other words, people’s subconcious might communicate and interact with each (but the conscious mind wouldn’t necessarily be aware of that).

I believe that Lshak said in the op that “any opinions are welcome”!
July 15, 2013 at 3:01 pm

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know_hope

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so your question assumes that there is some ‘greater force’ behind these psychedelic experiences. i guess the answer may depend on how ‘god’s’ judgement of the world differs from yours, and also if god actually does pass any judgement and/or sees that there should be consequences for any action/behaviour…

so i would guess that psychedelic experiences may be teachers but i dont think they would be in any way a ‘beauty or horror’ cinematic message sent straight from the almighty
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