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February 11, 2009 at 7:19 pm

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p0ly

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DontBeliveTheHype!;307882 wrote:

he used to get stoned in this abandoned house down his road .. (he likes to “big it up” tho) :laugh_at:

ahahahahahahhahaa
February 11, 2009 at 7:19 pm

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DontBeliveTheHype!;307882 wrote:

he used to get stoned in this abandoned house down his road .. (he likes to “big it up” tho) :laugh_at:

ahahahahahahhahaa
February 12, 2009 at 4:36 pm

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DontBeliveTheHype!;307882 wrote:

he used to get stoned in this abandoned house down his road .. (he likes to “big it up” tho) :laugh_at:

The cheek of it.
February 19, 2009 at 12:20 pm

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djprocess;240654 wrote:

massive waste of money?

They can waste all the money they want for all I care. My only problem with it is that it’s massively hypocritical. Dawkins criticises the recruiting techniques of religions and then goes and does the same thing himself!

I’m not sure why he’s on such a mission. What should he care if people have religion? Fair enough making a best selling book as a scientific study but this seems to be more about ‘converting’ people to atheism.
February 19, 2009 at 12:22 pm

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Iacchus;308842 wrote:

They can waste all the money they want for all I care. My only problem with it is that it’s massively hypocritical. Dawkins criticises the recruiting techniques of religions and then goes and does the same thing himself!

I’m not sure why he’s on such a mission. What should he care if people have religion? Fair enough making a best selling book as a scientific study but this seems to be more about ‘converting’ people to atheism.

well dawkins says time after time, he cares about the truth……
February 19, 2009 at 12:44 pm

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process

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Iacchus;308842 wrote:

They can waste all the money they want for all I care. My only problem with it is that it’s massively hypocritical. Dawkins criticises the recruiting techniques of religions and then goes and does the same thing himself!

thats the point i was trying to make…
February 19, 2009 at 2:29 pm

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p0lygon-Window;308843 wrote:

well dawkins says time after time, he cares about the truth……

Well attacking organised religion is a noble persuit I think because organised religions dissuade people from thinking for themselves.. but trying to argue the existence or non-existence of an abstract ‘God’ concept from a scientific point of view is pointless as you can never tell either way. A scientist should only be concerned with the truth of what we can measure, and not concern themselves with spiritual matters.

I really dont like organised religion but I really dont like hardcore atheist scientists either because they try to pretend there is no cosmic mystery, that existence is incidental and meaningless. No amount of science explains why anything exists but people pretend that because we have a mathematical model of particle interactions we can stop thinking about the nature of being and get on with our lives.

Science can be just as closed minded as religion. Anyone who really cares about the truth should approach all religions, sciences, and philosophies with an open mind.
February 19, 2009 at 2:33 pm

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Iacchus;308857 wrote:

Well attacking organised religion is a noble persuit I think because organised religions dissuade people from thinking for themselves.. but trying to argue the existence or non-existence of an abstract ‘God’ concept from a scientific point of view is pointless as you can never tell either way. A scientist should only be concerned with the truth of what we can measure, and not concern themselves with spiritual matters.

I really dont like organised religion but I really dont like hardcore atheist scientists either because they try to pretend there is no cosmic mystery, that existence is incidental and meaningless. No amount of science explains why anything exists but people pretend that because we have a mathematical model of particle interactions we can stop thinking about the nature of being and get on with our lives.

Science can be just as closed minded as religion. Anyone who really cares about the truth should approach all religions, sciences, and philosophies with an open mind.

have you read ‘the god delusion’?
February 19, 2009 at 2:48 pm

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Clusterfrog

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p0lygon-Window;308858 wrote:

have you read ‘the god delusion’?

Yep I have. I agree with him about creationism being bollocks etc but he didnt provide any valid evidence or arguments against the concept of a divine intelligence or a ‘plan’ for the universe, other than some general patronisation and ‘hey look at this famous person he’s an athiest’ arguments.

Discrediting organised religions, their bigoted texts, and their comical misinterpretations of metaphors is easily done, and the big religions have shot themselves in the foot by denying theories like evolution. But that shouldnt stop us questioning why anything exists.
February 19, 2009 at 2:51 pm

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Iacchus;308861 wrote:

Yep I have. I agree with him about creationism being bollocks etc but he didnt provide any valid evidence or arguments against the concept of a divine intelligence or a ‘plan’ for the universe, other than some general patronisation and ‘hey look at this famous person he’s an athiest’ arguments.

Discrediting organised religions, their bigoted texts, and their comical misinterpretations of metaphors is easily done, and the big religions have shot themselves in the foot by denying theories like evolution. But that shouldnt stop us questioning why anything exists.

it shouldnt stop us but it doesnt get you anywhere…
February 19, 2009 at 3:07 pm

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Clusterfrog

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p0lygon-Window;308863 wrote:

it shouldnt stop us but it doesnt get you anywhere…

well if you’re not interested in the meaning of life then fair enough. and if you want to decide that universes coming and going is the natural order of things and that intelligent life is not significant and just a temporary reversel of entropy, then thats also fair enough

but why try to change other peoples minds about it? hence my point, dawkins is just as bad as christians on the street with megaphones. people should keep their religions to themselves, and atheism is no exception.
February 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm

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process

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p0lygon-Window;308863 wrote:

it shouldnt stop us but it doesnt get you anywhere…

its interesting tho
February 19, 2009 at 3:26 pm

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djprocess;308866 wrote:

its interesting tho

yeah i love to ponder these things alot, too much to be honest.
it just gets more and more confusing, i decided to buy some books on philosophy yestarday
February 19, 2009 at 3:39 pm

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Clusterfrog

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p0lygon-Window;308868 wrote:

yeah i love to ponder these things alot, too much to be honest.
it just gets more and more confusing, i decided to buy some books on philosophy yestarday

tell me about it.. id like to go one day without zoning out, staring into the distance getting stuck in some crazy philosophical mind loop 😛
February 19, 2009 at 3:45 pm

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p0ly

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Iacchus;308869 wrote:

tell me about it.. id like to go one day without zoning out, staring into the distance getting stuck in some crazy philosophical mind loop 😛

yeah man ahahahahahha
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