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  • @amyberthelet 360896 wrote:

    Believe me, I TRIED ‘doing it on my own’ – didn’t work. My desire for the next hit was much stronger.

    And God is a RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. Would you want someone convicted of murder getting off bc ‘the judge was bein a nice guy’??? The point is to fear God and repent of sin by accepting what Jesus did on the cross!

    perhaps he rules with an iron fist but his rules are bullshit

    for instance…????

    well for example, just taken right of of the ten commandments..

    1. “Do not put anything ahead of God your Creator.” – go fuck yourself you attention seeking power freak prick
    2. “Do not make or worship idols.” i will worship cider bottles as much as i like thank you
    3. “Do not take the name of God in vain.” god has funny balls. i just did – take that mr omnipotent!
    4. “Take one day of complete rest each week.” why should i – what if i dont want to – what if im helping people all week
    5. “Honor your father and your mother.” what if theyre a bunch of cunts and dont deserve to be honored (for reference i love my parents)

    “First, love God your Creator more than anything
    else. Then, love all other people the same as you
    love yourself.”

    what if i hate thyself

    He is GOD – He created the universe – He has a RIGHT to be #1. If you don’t like it, you can choose to not obey, but there will be consequences. He created us with free will. And you don’t HAVE to like the rules – there are parts I don’t like, but since I do not want to end up in hell for all eternity, I obey. I know you will say there is no such thing…but what if there is?

    if there is then i should like to endure many different ways of pain for to burn in hell for all eternity is to constantly suffer and therefore this cannot exist via one method for i will grown accustomed, perhaps even fond of this – i will learn many a method by the end of eternity.

    ‘The supreme irony of life is that hardly anyone gets out of it alive.’

    i really couldnt give a shit if he created the universe or not – perhaps i created this here gun. do i have the right to go shoot someone with it – nah. we are what makes each other breath – assuming the situation that the universe was created by a god by christian definition, he should be dropped to the same level as us for we are what maintain it and a garden is not a garden without maintenence – it is a 1 day exhibition.

    created with free will. though if i dont like the rules and actively voice this im gunna go to hell for all eternity. not exactly true free will is it.

    another logical issue is raised by the menace of the statement “there will be consequences”. aside the blatant failure to define any consequence through verb or example. as i was saying at the start of my post, to end up in hell for all eternity. hell is by definition a place of pain and turmoil. if i am there for all eternity, im obviously going to eventually grow accustomed to each method – and however big the universe is, it is still a finite creation and therefore everything within is finite – including methods of conveying pain and turmoil into me. therefore i come to the conclusion that the ‘hell’ will eventually end, therefore… your wrong!

    however who could be as bland and shallow as to suggest such a pathetically simple playground-esque turn of events as – christianity and other religions do document, and then invariably and recurrently claim its impeccable legitimacy, anyway?

    You should read ’23 Minutes in Hell’ by Bill Wiese – describes what hell is really like – no fun and games! Yes there’s many different methods of torment.

    Yes we were created to maintain the earth, but look how that turned out!! 🙁

    Free will does NOT mean that you can escape consequences, just that you can choose to obey or not.

    Heaven and hell are outside of time…..in heaven they are continually worshipping God and in hell it is continual torment – not by this world’s standards, so there’s no ‘getting accustomed to it’.

    I say God exists and heaven and hell are real – you reject them. Ultimately we WILL find out one day!

    You can’t see atoms etc but you know they’re there. What about ppls testimonies who have been to heaven/hell AND COME BACK TO TELL THE TALE? Were they ALL just making it up???? (also read 90 minutes in heaven by don piper….

    @amyberthelet 360905 wrote:

    You should read ’23 Minutes in Hell’ by Bill Wiese – describes what hell is really like – no fun and games! Yes there’s many different methods of torment.

    Yes we were created to maintain the earth, but look how that turned out!! 🙁

    Free will does NOT mean that you can escape consequences, just that you can choose to obey or not.

    Heaven and hell are outside of time…..in heaven they are continually worshipping God and in hell it is continual torment – not by this world’s standards, so there’s no ‘getting accustomed to it’.

    I say God exists and heaven and hell are real – you reject them. Ultimately we WILL find out one day!

    You can’t see atoms etc but you know they’re there. What about ppls testimonies who have been to heaven/hell AND COME BACK TO TELL THE TALE? Were they ALL just making it up???? (also read 90 minutes in heaven by don piper….

    i feel sorry for you

    @amyberthelet 360905 wrote:

    You should read ’23 Minutes in Hell’ by Bill Wiese – describes what hell is really like – no fun and games! Yes there’s many different methods of torment.

    Yes we were created to maintain the earth, but look how that turned out!! 🙁

    Free will does NOT mean that you can escape consequences, just that you can choose to obey or not.

    Heaven and hell are outside of time…..in heaven they are continually worshipping God and in hell it is continual torment – not by this world’s standards, so there’s no ‘getting accustomed to it’.

    I say God exists and heaven and hell are real – you reject them. Ultimately we WILL find out one day!

    You can’t see atoms etc but you know they’re there. What about ppls testimonies who have been to heaven/hell AND COME BACK TO TELL THE TALE? Were they ALL just making it up???? (also read 90 minutes in heaven by don piper….

    yes, because he has really been to hell hasn’t he. LAUGH, OUT, LOUD.

    came out better then my soufflé

    consequences are a bit harsh init, just for not believing in something? father christmas dont kick my ass coz i dont believe in him. god is just a bullyin old mardy fucker.

    i dont know which is worse – arent they both hell! you could argue that the is a parallel between heaven and hell since in hell i would probably be worshipping god as a form of punishment. anyway what i was saying is it is confined via the universe, it would be one of gods creations, and so it is also finite and so the possibilities are finite. therefore the methods of pain are finite. and so in relatively to the size of an eternity, the methods will swiftly become tedious and boring – and i will grow a tolerance.

    so theyve been to hell AND COME BACK? SHIT I MUST READ THIS YOUVE SUDDENLY TURNED MY OPINION REPENT REPENT. i though hell was eternal anyway? yeah, they probably were just making it up. deluded fuckers.

    if god is real, amys going to hell no doubt in my mind

    @amyberthelet 360905 wrote:

    You can’t see atoms etc but you know they’re there. What about ppls testimonies who have been to heaven/hell AND COME BACK TO TELL THE TALE? Were they ALL just making it up???? (also read 90 minutes in heaven by don piper….

    read up on the science of near death experiences. They are dissociated states of consciousness brought about by an oxygen conserving defense mechanism. they involve intense otherworldy experiences, some ‘heavanly’ some ‘hellish’

    these states can be recreated through use of certain drugs like dmt and ketamine, ive been to heaven and hell myself

    im not an athiest but you cant use peoples mental experiences as proof as the afterlife.

    Being on drugs is NOT going to heaven or hell!

    And all I can say is, read for yourself – ALL these ppl aren’t delusional!

    The book by Don Piper…he was DEAD – not just ‘oxygen starved’ – they had given up all hope….you have to read to understand. This wasn’t even one of those ‘tunnel to the light’ type experiences.

    And you can’t compare heaven and hell which are OUTSIDE the universe to anything IN the universe!

    Also, you would never be forced to worship God for all eternity as a PUNISHMENT – doesn’t work that way. It is VOLUNTARY.

    I’m just citing some EVIDENCE like you wanted…..obviously you can’t SEE God thru a microsope or a telescope! What kind of ‘proof’ am I supposed to give?

    of course, all these people are delusional and the christians who have wacky out of body experiences are not delusional

    do you listen to yourself when you speak?

    on that note there are an estimated 2 million alien abduction testemonies from people who really really thought they were abducted by aliens?

    do you believe them too? or do you only believe the experiences of the christians?

    hypocrite

    Call me what u want, doesn’t matter.

    Besides, if Christianity is so delusional, then WHY all the martyrs????

    I am trying to be civil here, why do you have to sling mud at me???

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