they even regulate what breed of pet dog you may own!
ehhh…Liloo and her breed(amstaff) is infact banned today in DK today if they are born after 17.03.2010….the law was issued in late june so loads of puppies got over the night, when the law was issued, a death sentence, this is what you get when fear have taken over the common sense….
@!sinner69! 447088 wrote:
ehhh…Liloo and her breed(amstaff) is infact banned today in DK today if they are born after 17.03.2010….the law was issued in late june so loads of puppies got over the night, when the law was issued, a death sentence, this is what you get when fear have taken over the common sense….
to put things in perspective have a look at this statistics;
ATTS Breed Statistics | American Temperament Test Society, Inc.
The strongest regulations though are only in certain blocks called HDB which are social houses. There you are allowed only one dog of a certain breed. I think this is more for noise prevention and hygiene purposes. its in fact better than in many UK places where pets are banned outright.
Anywhere else in Singapore you can keep most breeds of dogs, but unfortunately most bull breeds were banned from entry in 1991. However I think the ones already there, including pups were allowed to stay for the rest of their lives provided they were sterilised (of course by now I doubt there are any left).
A lot of SG regulations are again due to size and space, its a tiny country into which they put about the same population as the whole of Scotland!
Getting back to the riots, if you know who this person is please report to the relevant authorities………..
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Getting back to the riots, if you know who this person is please report to the relevant authorities………..
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not again i told her to stay with mum! :[
utter disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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a random comment in the guardian to night;
So let me get this clear now……………….Everybody on here agrees people should respect the law and be nice to other people.
But the politicians fiddle expenses. ( which is illegal. )
And journalists hack phones. ( which is illegal.)
And police appear to be reluctant to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
( which winds people up. )
and take bribes from journalists ( which is illegal )
And now loads of ordinary people are looting from shops. ( which is illegal.)
And other loads of ordinary people are forming vigilante gangs. ( which is illegal, isn’t it?)
And kids on Facebook are inciting riots by typing stuff ( which is apparently illegal )
And tabloid readers posting comments to shoot the looters ( which apparently isn’t illegal at all , but is almost exactly the same as the kid on Facebook )
And I’m trying to follow it all on Twitter ( which is bound to be illegal soon )
So now we’ve got politicians AND journalists AND police AND criminals AND kids AND adults running about all over the place every night trying to show who is the toughest of the bunch.
And some people think it might be a really great idea to add to all the confusion by adding rubber bullets, water cannons and God knows what else, because shooting bullets at people always calms them down.
What’s left for tonight? Are the Buddhists sending off for their Amazon baseball bats yet?
And if those fecking politicians spend all day tomorrow asking each other to agree that their side is condemning riots more than the other side, I vote we put a media ban on politicians appearing on TV until this all settles down, because they’re only going to make it worse by talking more bollocks instead of sorting things out like they are paid to do.
Can somebody please just ask Bob Geldof to organise a concert or something and get everybody to chill out for a couple of days.
( Not to sing obviously, just organise one with other singers. Surely we can all agree on that?)
From a fireman friends facebook update:
Dear PM, here’s your country back, it’s still fit to govern and you’re still in power.
The public sector have seen to that for you.
Could you therefore arrange for me to pay more for less and work an extra 5 years please?
So over to the private sector to push us on.
Oh wait..bankers and traders are private sector aren’t they? Bugger.
I though very well put :wink::wink:
An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents
Dear Mr & Mrs Cameron,
Why did you never take the time to teach your child basic morality?
As a young man, he was in a gang that regularly smashed up private property. We know that you were absent parents who left your child to be brought up by a school rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour yourselves. The fact that he became a delinquent with no sense of respect for the property of others can only reflect that fact that you are terrible, lazy human beings who failed even in teaching your children the difference between right and wrong. I can only assume that his contempt for the small business owners of Oxford is indicative of his wider values.
Even worse, your neglect led him to fall in with a bad crowd. He became best friends with a young man who set fire to buildings for fun. And others:
There’s Michael Gove, whose wet-lipped rage was palpable on Newsnight last night. This is the Michael Gove who confused one of his houses with another of his houses in order to avail himself of £7,000 of the taxpayers’ money to which he was not entitled (or £13,000, depending on which house you think was which).Or Hazel Blears, who was interviewed in full bristling peahen mode for almost all of last night. She once forgot which house she lived in, and benefited to the tune of £18,000. At the time she said it would take her reputation years to recover. Unfortunately not.
But, of course, this is different. This is just understandable confusion over the rules of how many houses you are meant to have as an MP. This doesn’t show the naked greed of people stealing plasma tellies.
Unless you’re Gerald Kaufman, who broke parliamentary rules to get £8,000 worth of 40-inch, flat screen, Bang and Olufsen TV out of the taxpayer.
Or Ed Vaizey, who got £2,000 in antique furniture ‘delivered to the wrong address’. Which is fortunate, because had that been the address they were intended for, that would have been fraud.Or Jeremy Hunt, who broke the rules to the tune of almost £20,000 on one property and £2,000 on another. But it’s all right, because he agreed to pay half of the money back. Not the full amount, it would be absurd to expect him to pay back the entire sum that he took and to which he was not entitled. No, we’ll settle for half. And, as in any other field, what might have been considered embezzlement of £22,000 is overlooked. We know, after all, that David Cameron likes to give people second chances.
Fortunately, we have the Met Police to look after us. We’ll ignore the fact that two of its senior officers have had to resign in the last six weeks amid suspicions of widespread corruption within the force.We’ll ignore Andy Hayman, who went for champagne dinners with those he was meant to be investigating, and then joined the company on leaving the Met.
Of course, Mr and Mrs Cameron, your son is right. There are parts of society that are not just broken, they are sick. Riddled with disease from top to bottom.
Just let me be clear about this (It’s a good phrase, Mr and Mrs Cameron, and one I looted from every sentence your son utters, just as he looted it from Tony Blair), I am not justifying or minimising in any way what has been done by the looters over the last few nights. What I am doing, however, is expressing shock and dismay that your son and his friends feel themselves in any way to be guardians of morality in this country.
Can they really, as 650 people who have shown themselves to be venal pygmies, moral dwarves at every opportunity over the last 20 years, bleat at others about ‘criminality’. Those who decided that when they broke the rules (the rules they themselves set) they, on the whole wouldn’t face the consequences of their actions?Are they really surprised that this country’s culture is swamped in greed, in the acquisition of material things, in a lust for consumer goods of the most base kind? Really?
Let’s have a think back: cash-for-questions; Bernie Ecclestone; cash-for-access; Mandelson’s mortgage; the Hinduja passports; Blunkett’s alleged insider trading (and, by the way, when someone has had to resign in disgrace twice can we stop having them on television as a commentator, please?); the meetings on the yachts of oligarchs; the drafting of the Digital Economy Act with Lucian Grange; Byers’, Hewitt’s & Hoon’s desperation to prostitute themselves and their positions; the fact that Andrew Lansley (in charge of NHS reforms) has a wife who gives lobbying advice to the very companies hoping to benefit from the NHS reforms. And that list didn’t even take me very long to think of.
Our politicians are for sale and they do not care who knows it.Oh yes, and then there’s the expenses thing. Widescale abuse of the very systems they designed, almost all of them grasping what they could while they remained MPs, to build their nest egg for the future at the public’s expense. They even now whine on Twitter about having their expenses claims for getting back to Parliament while much of the country is on fire subject to any examination. True public servants.
The last few days have revealed some truths, and some heartening truths. The fact that the #riotcleanup crews had organised themselves before David Cameron even made time for a public statement is heartening. The fact that local communities came together to keep their neighbourhoods safe when the police failed is heartening. The fact that there were peace vigils being organised (even as the police tried to dissuade people) is heartening.There is hope for this country. But we must stop looking upwards for it. The politicians are the ones leading the charge into the gutter.
David Cameron was entirely right when he said: “It is a complete lack of responsibility in parts of our society, people allowed to think that the world owes them something, that their rights outweigh their responsibilities, and that their actions do not have consequences.”
He was more right than he knew.
And I blame the parents.*** EDIT – I have added a hyperlink to a Bullingdon article after a request for context from an American reader. I have also added the sentence about Nick Clegg as this was brought to my attention in the comments and it fits in too nicely to leave out. That’s the way I edited it at 18:38 on the 11th August, 2011 ***
An Open Letter to David Cameron’s Parents « Nathaniel Tapley
(Nicked from Glo’s FB page)
I lay the blame for this disorder fully at Labours door. They are the ones responsible for this, through their failed policy’s they have created a lost generation. You can’t blame this on the (current) Tories, they’ve only been in power in a year, this tension has been brewing for much longer than that.
I’d like to add to my angry post this morning (God I’m a grumpy bastard in the morning ahaha) that the Tories / Dems have a role to play in this as well, I’m not saying they’re completely innocent, I just blame Labour more for the state this country is in.
All politicians are complete bastards though, Personally I’d let the queen rule. At least it’s easier to depose a monarch than a whole load of MPs if they aren’t popular!
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I lay the blame for this disorder fully at Labours door. They are the ones responsible for this, through their failed policy’s they have created a lost generation. You can’t blame this on the (current) Tories, they’ve only been in power in a year, this tension has been brewing for much longer than that.
interesting that the Uk’s riots all have happened under tory governent though?
I think it stretches much further back than the last labour governemnt (of whom I was so happy got in and then I was less and less happy, what with the war) but I think this goes right back to maggie and selling everything off and corperate’s being put before the average man or woman and allowing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer, as this is what the parents of these kids grew up with, it goes much further back than a few years IMO
not saying that my beliefs here in any way on here to negate the violence and destruction over the last week!!!!! I mean the unrest of the country as a whole.
it goes back to when people of mine, mungo1972 and sinner’s generation were toddlers – in England there was extremes of greed and selfishness from both sides of the political spectrum and no thought of consensus – from the early 1970s to today, leading to todays problems.
To be fair where Sinner grew up and in surrounding European nations folk had more sense, and created much better and equal political systems (whilst still retaining democracy) but sadly a lot of that was only in the wake of terrible suffering during WW II where they directly knew what it was like to totally lose freedom, and their people also did not whinge as much about about taxes, paid them willingly and worked hard at what jobs they had, unions and management alike.
but that has other bad effects, it seems that in Northern Europe you have harder extremism on both sides, high taxes make folk angry about letting in immigrants when economic times are hard, and in the whole EU those who have jobs also start judging those who claim social benefits as they feel a sense of ownership over them (when economic times are good, differences are forgotten).
and also they too have tried following the bad practices of the UK and USA with ruthless competition and privatisation.. worse the EU has been hijacked by free market types, it is now them who force the EU nations to privatise their public utilities even though there is no rational need to.
however in the whole EU we have democratic government and a reasonable bit of freedom (lots of other foreigners do not) and riots don’t help anybody in the long run, as those what get their property trashed turn to feds and the currently elected government to get justice..
To be fair if I was going to lay blame for riots I would be pointing at Labour too – how many people demonstrated peacefully against the war in Iraq? and it made no difference at all:you_crazy so the lesson to be learned was what? that peaceful demonstrations don’t work perhaps…
The government in power responded by making it harder to demonstrate under law and by means of enforcement as well so what was gained from those peaceful demos made?
in England what happened was much more outbreaks of targeted criminality than overt political protests. And in the UK there has never been a tradition of “caving in” to demands from street protestors whether they be anti-war protestors or anti-fuel tax (and by extension pro war) protestors..
The social problems affect the entire UK – yet only some cities in England were affected, and in reality only a few hundred people were involved.
I’ve got a fair bit of respect for Alex Salmond for standing up and berating the UK and world media for using the term “UK riots” when they were in fact confined to England..
The details of those charged and brought before Court are now public knowledge (like with any other suspected criminals) – and both the feds and crime reporters of all political spectrums agree that there is zero correlation between those arrested and those involved in other forms of political activism.
This isn’t to say that there are not political reasons for the crimes – but the response isn’t one from activists, its from opportunists (some of the people involved and the things they nicked are just pure foolishness).
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