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  • Ok folks…..like I said ‘love the sinner hate the sin’…..I am NOT hating on anyone……but I am a Christian Conservative – I hold the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. God explicity states that homosexuality and murder are SINS. It is not who people ARE but what they DO. As a Christian Conservative this is what I believe. And NOBODY has to go to hell – that’s just it!!!!! I am NOT happy that pewople do go there, and NEITHER IS GOD. But as a righteous Judge who holds that something is eveil and sinful, would He be righteous if He allowed it?????

    I LOVE people – just don’t want to see them make bad decisions.

    When I left the streets, this is where I went Reconciliation Outreach

    It is a Christian ministry. Obviously if you are not a Christian then you wouldn’t agree.


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      General Lighting;243396 wrote:
      Amy, if you really want someone to talk to who may be a bit more on your level try this dude

      Garry W. Denke
      Geologist / Geophysicist
      Denke Oil Company
      Wildcat Station, P.O. Box 866488
      Plano, Texas 75086-6488

      Tel: (972) 422-8268
      Fax: (972) 422-7868
      Cell: (972) 768-4631

      He’s a very intelligent man in his fifties who knows a lot about rocks and things and was trying to put across some theory about Stonehenge here in England, but lost himself by not actually engaging in debate about it, seems to have got a bit obsessed about the whole thing – he even bombards our public officials with emails etc so of course his campaign gets ignored. Mentioned Jesus a few times in his texts.

      I get the impression though deep down he’s a decent chap what took too much drugs in the 1970s and went a bit crazy – maybe it would do good for some people in the same area to chat to him?

      I love Denke..

      He always make me laugh :laugh_at:

      amyberthelet;243382 wrote:
      Um, there are TONS of people who would be happy to ADOPT the child!!!!!

      Come on now.. really. You have to admit that statement is bullshit.

      There are tons of people who are willing to adopt a child, but there are far more children then willing adopters.

      And as these children grow up, the less likely people will adopt them.
      Much like dogs in kennels.

      General Lighting;243396 wrote:
      Amy, if you really want someone to talk to who may be a bit more on your level try this dude

      Garry W. Denke

      :laugh_at::laugh_at:

      amyberthelet;243398 wrote:
      God explicity states that homosexuality and murder are SINS.

      I LOVE people – just don’t want to see them make bad decisions.

      .

      I’ve been polite so far but get to fuck Amy!!!!

      how can you in this day and age link homosexuality and murder in the same sentance FFS!!!!

      what the fuck has it got to do with anyone who anyone is involved in a relationship / has sex with unless they are brecking the law or hurting others?
      I mean it is legal in the US of A isnt it? just as abortion is?

      murder is wrong plain and simple – but dont forget kids ….

      if you repent enough and are born again you can do what you like as you’ll be forgiven by the man in the clowd and can get into heaven as your sins are forgiven……………:you_crazy:you_crazy

      amyberthelet;243398 wrote:
      Ok folks…..like I said ‘love the sinner hate the sin’…..I am NOT hating on anyone……but I am a Christian Conservative – I hold the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. God explicity states that homosexuality and murder are SINS. It is not who people ARE but what they DO. As a Christian Conservative this is what I believe. And NOBODY has to go to hell – that’s just it!!!!! I am NOT happy that pewople do go there, and NEITHER IS GOD. But as a righteous Judge who holds that something is eveil and sinful, would He be righteous if He allowed it?????

      I LOVE people – just don’t want to see them make bad decisions.

      When I left the streets, this is where I went Reconciliation Outreach

      It is a Christian ministry. Obviously if you are not a Christian then you wouldn’t agree.

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      amyberthelet;243398 wrote:
      I LOVE people – just don’t want to see them make bad decisions.

      When I left the streets, this is where I went Reconciliation Outreach

      It is a Christian ministry. Obviously if you are not a Christian then you wouldn’t agree.

      that website is missing a whole bunch of stuff. even the marketing/campaigning, all shown as “coming soon”. even the history of the site isn’t shown. and I’m sure they have more testimonies to show than one lady from two years ago?

      Perhaps you might wish to devote some of your time/energy to putting something back to the people what took you off the streets and helping them update their website, rather than trying to “debate” stuff with a load of peopel the other side of the pond what are so diametrically opposed to your views that no progress can come of it?

      Well the fact that there are more children that people to adopt may sadly be true……but there ARE those who cannot have children like myself……can only pray for people’s hearts to be changed. One thing that I do NOT agree with is how difficult it is in this country to adopt a child – takes THOUSANDS and sooo much red tape. 😥 Yes the system has flaws, I admit that freely – but I still believe children have the right to life.

      Did you know that Obama opposed a bill that would protect a child after an abortion failed? The hospitals just toss the fetuses into the dirty laundry bin to die!!!!!

      TG, I linked it in the same sentence because ABORTION IS MURDER. Yes it is legal – sadly.

      And like I said, I am a Christian who reads the Bible, which explicitly states that both are sins. Yes, God will judge both. If you do not believe that so be it. I do not want this to get ugly – I’m just stating what we Christians believe.

      And I do already support R.O…….I am not trying to change the UK – I couldn’t.

      I take it that this thread is ok to participate in if you are not a Christian Conservative????

      amyberthelet;243414 wrote:
      ABORTION IS MURDER

      It blatantly isn’t though, is it?

      no one said it is wrong for you to participate in the thread, but many are already perfectly aware of what Christian conservatives believe. Its not as if we have never come across them before and don’t have them in England, Denmark, Scotland or anywhere else in the EU.

      what are you actually hoping to achieve by being here?

      you have told us how you quit drugs which is fair enough. but you don’t even like dance music, and probably don’t agree with the lifestyles of 90% of the people on here.

      amyberthelet;243414 wrote:
      And like I said, I am a Christian who reads the Bible, which explicitly states that both are sins.

      Ahem:

      The bible has countless incidents where it is OK to rape, have slaves, and even murder. Here are some verses from the bible:

      However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

      When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

      So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

      The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

      Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.(Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

      So which bits am I suppossed to believe- that parts that say it is wrong to commit rape and murder- or the parts that says it’s ok?

      Evil Bible Home Page

      um, that was the CUSTOM in THOSE days! I am talking about the NT….

      BTW – my original intent WAS NOT to spark a huge debate. I just posted some prayers in the hopes that it MIGHT help someone……

      you have the option to walk away from the debate at any time…

      if people want prayers they can find them on google. Nearly 32 million hits (I just tried), plenty of all Christian denominations and those of a few other religions as well.

      amyberthelet;243414 wrote:
      TG, I linked it in the same sentence because ABORTION IS MURDER. Yes it is legal – sadly.

      in your opinion

      In my opinion abortion is a choice, in my opinion homosexuality is not a sin

      drugs are not legal still you chose to do them and chose to stop with the help of your faith – but thats fine now as your a chrisitan :crazy:

      Yes that is fair……I just wasn’t prepared for all the INTENSE stuff….I’ve posted what I’m sposed to – I don’t want to openly ATTACK anyone……I will debate but I just don’t want it to turn ugly is all.

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