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partyvibe was on the southeast local tv evening news . I saw half of the item and it was about the two who shot up a party nr dorking. partyvibe was used as an example of the places people go to get info on parties.
Thats a bit unfair as if they’d put any effort in they would know that this is one of the safest party sites. You know anything else about the story???
What did they say exactly?
my mum saw it and mentioned it to me! – AFAIK partyvibe was only mentioned in passing. I had noticed various TV companies looking at our site in the logs for some months now.
BTW the rave was shot up by irate gamekeepers who had a financial interest in the land where the event was being held, not by any wannabe gangsta types present at the rave (I have never heard in 14 years of a firearm being discharged at a real free party, although it is commonplace at unlicensed UK garage parties).
they were given a prison sentence and had their firearms confiscated, but the short length of the sentence leaves a danger that another irate landowner who feels “they have nothing else left to lose” may try to take matters into their own hands in a similar way.
as far as the report is concerned I wouldn’t class it as unfair journalism, just your average report – although the shooter was given a platform to speak from in that report (where she alleged overuse of that particular venue and an amount of environmental damage) she had already been through due legal process and had done her prison time, she is hardly going to repent now!
The event happened, it could happen again, and it is an illustration of how angry and divided people are becoming over the issues of access to rural land – hardly suprising the media pick up on it.
Partyvibe is a site people look on for info about both free and licensed events (including licensed urban music events promoted by the BBC 1xtra channel!), and has a liberal attitude towards organising free private events outside the constraints of the British entertainments licensing system.
But users of this site openly discuss issues such as this incident, and warn anyone attending these of the safety and legal issues involved and have done so for many years.
TBH its about £5,000 worth of free publicity to hundreds of thousands of TV viewers, and I bet if the journos had consulted with the cops beforehand they would have actually told them not to publicise our site!
We are after all a site on the public internet, accessible to all citizens of the world who have a free net connection.
Sites such as this (and SJ, USH, psy-forum, dnbforum) represent the free party and urban music scene to the rest of the world (including those who may not approve of our activities) as much as supportive ravers.
And in common with all websites we are constantly subject to the scrutiny of the media – these reports will happen (its not the first time PV has been mentioned in the local media.)
This is something all our users should also remember when posting here.
i was actually contacted by the guy who did the report…he emailed me monday, i replyed to him yester day but the report went out last eve (i dunno didn’t see it- any way to?)
i was half suprised at how little time they dedicated to researching the story…the bloke seemed to know fuck all about it. he said they contacted mixmag, and i said they are no freinds of ours. :obey:
i hope one of the media types pulls their head out of their arse soon and wakes up to wha ting a gwan…fat chance.. 🙁
as i said I only saw some of the report they mentioned that paypartys were stopped but freeparties continue, they didnt say anything bad about PV only that it is an example of a site that people go to find out about freeparties and they did show a shot of the forum page, the report was quite sympthitc to the couple who fired the shots, what stood out to me was the distressed faces of the two and their comment such as the birds didnt sing in the area for more than a week after the party. They mentioned surreys no tollerence and the disturbance to locals.
I didnt mean to start any alarm but it did need mentioning as we need to be aware or at least reminded that they are aware.
im not suprised about their sympathies…who in their right mind would go against the sun in the opinion stakes ? not the bbc, unless they have got very good reason…the comment about the birds not singing is interesting…i really hope its a lie. although tbh i wouldnt be suprised if it wasn’t 🙁
there should be tests on the extent of natural disturbance by noise somewhere, surely? anyone know where?
i think its really good that the beeb are recognising thsi as a two sided issue- they are hardly bias free, but we might not have been so lucky…
i really think that the media climate is getting warmer for our cause…civil liberties are at the top of the agenda, coupled with alternative land use issues stirred up by the tories at travelers expense…
i really think that the media climate is getting warmer for our cause…civil liberties are at the top of the agenda, coupled with alternative land use issues stirred up by the tories at travelers expense…
I didnt see it like that at all it didnt show freeparties in a good light at all, infact it was put over as an infrigment against middle englands liberty.
I watched the debate on the equalties bill being debated and they also said that liberty and equality was at the top of the agenda but there was only 12 MPs debating it. the same day the PM made a statement outside No10 and I noted he said amongst other stuff that it didnt matter what CLASS you were from that you should have a chance to improve your lot. which is just bullshit and double talk for the rich to get richer and the poor to pay for it.
as i say i didn’t see the report, so what i’m going on is past reporting of raves compared to recent reporting of raves…it seems to me that the articles used to be invariably “drugged up ravers destroy peace” where as now some of the reports are while not exactly positive and on side, are at least more balanced and admit that there is another side of the arguement…
i totally agree that the government is not to be trusted, and that they are not gonna bend over backwards to help us, but my veiw is that we’ve got to keep trying, stay positive and open to the possibility of change. i agree that its not the most likely thing ever, but it is a possibility, and we should aleways be ready to expliot that. i dont think that getting these parties accepted is gonna be easy, and we will get shouted at and threatened with jail and alsorts, but i beleive that in the long run it will be worth it.
the mods on this boad have been brewing a press release to make our position clear to the mainstream press. its going slowly, and i’m itching to put it up in the public forums, keep your ears open…
the mods on this boad have been brewing a press release to make our position clear to the mainstream press. its going slowly, and i’m itching to put it up in the public forums, keep your ears open…
to make “whos” position clear. 🙂
erm… the folk on this site? the positive free party peoples? dunno, im just speaking for myself at the mo, but the idea was to put it up on the main board at some point and see what everyone recons. we dont want to be caught out pretending to represent people we dont, so i think a public edit is essential.
the way i see it is that it would be great if we could make ourselves more known to the general public as i think our ideas are maturing about realiatic solutions to the conflict that freeparties create.
check your pm’s
hi use I havent got a lot of time to give what you just sent me what it deserves, but when I get some time if I dont forget I will.
I can say this private freeparties are not illegal but it is right in this messed up society we live in that somebody should have the right to say that sometimes they are. we just cant party where ever or when we want.
couldnt agree with you more. i think that the party on regardless attitude is more a staple of sj, and on this site i recon we are a bit more realistic and self citicising than that.
what i really want is to find the middle ground between the ravers and the residents and the wildlife. to do that there must be meaningful dialogue between these groups. in order for that to happen i think we have to get as wide a range of feedback and input as poss.
i want parties to be a they should…no stress for anyone but the organisers, totally safe for the ravers, the locals shouldnt be aware we have had a party, and the wildlife should be as unaffected as humanly poss. this is possible (some of our parties have run like this) but the more support and info we get, the more likely we are to be consistant.
dr doolittle in the house?
sorry, couldn’t resist
what i really want is to find the middle ground between the ravers and the residents and the wildlife. to do that there must be meaningful dialogue between these groups. in order for that to happen i think we have to get as wide a range of feedback and input as poss.
want parties to be a they should…no stress for anyone but the organisers, totally safe for the ravers, the locals shouldnt be aware we have had a party, and the wildlife should be as unaffected as humanly poss. this is possible (some of our parties have run like this) but the more support and info we get, the more likely we are to be consistant.
you have this and they will tell you it is all bound up with a license. if you go into an agreement with locals or the local authoritys or the police then you and they will be liable for any problems, that is why you need a license apart from the selling of permitted drugs (booze).
you are going down a route that will open a can of worms. I think it is virtualy impossible to have a party without upseting someone or something
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