Party Vibe

@p0ly 596604 wrote:

These all shabby Ritalin analogues? Wouldn’t it be far better to get Speed?

all NPS are not quite as good as the “original stuff”; the only advantage is you don’t get nicked. If you are older than 25, have a full time job or children then getting nicked for drugs isn’t a small thing like it once was; especially in some areas where you will get put up before Court even for small amounts rather than given a caution; and that means all your personal info gets published in the local press; and even if it doesn’t it becomes a safeguarding issue and can affect things like employment prospects, access to your kids etc (especiallly if you are a single parent)

@Requiem 596615 wrote:

Then again very few sires sold actual pressed and blister packed branded versions that must have come from other countries medical supplies. Most vendors seemed to have had their own pellets pressed from powder. Obviously they came from the same places but do you think the quantities produced over what countries are buying for medicine is what’s causing the problem?

Yes; that is indeed what happens. Asian people like to get high as well, so the local cops and health authorities see the same problems in their youth as happen in the West.

From what I’ve read in places like the Hindustan Times and other local news (in English as unfortunatley I do not know any Asian languages 🙁 ) there are a few addiction cases amongst middle class youth like computer programmers, as well as mental health issues and road accidents.

If you’ve seen any footage of Indian roads that is the last place you want road users to all be on benzos. Eventually you get the local cops, national security organisations and Interpol/Europol as well as healthcare all working on international audits of how many pills are being made and how many can be accounted for legitmately and the discrepancies are noticed. It takes a few years but it does happen, they use the same data sharing and gathering networks as the outsourcing companies use.

I found various articles on Police Scotland website, STV and other Scottish news sites. For security reasons I won’t link directly to Police Scotland (they employ very smart lads and lasses for their surveillance and work closely with NCA/GCHQ) and the press release is not on NHS Scotland Lothian news, but around March/April 2015 around 125 injecting drug users were taken ill after injecting a NPS based on methylphenidate; they caught streptococcus and staphylococcus aureus which can become very nasty and potentially life threatening.

]it is very unlikely 125 people suddenly started injecting because this NPS became available so it must have replaced some other controlled substance. Incidentally NHS Scotland genuinely does put a lot of effort into rehab and treatment of all drugs and alcohol users (perhaps slightly better than in England and Wales) but the question of independence has always made drugs a sore point; in the 90s I remember paranoia that devolution would make Scotland become a narco-state; in fact completely the opposite happened and they became harsher than England for a good few years. Currently their policy is to treat addiction as a health issue rather than crime (unless the users are committing other crimes) but like other similar European nations they do not want to facilitiate or encourage recreational drug use.

I vaguely remember someone (yourself possibly?) mentioning that Scotland does prescribe very limited supplies of pharmaceutical quality amfetamine to addicts; making it one of the only EU nations to do this. The practice is certainly not mentioned in the England and Wales national formularies.

Because of the devolved NHS this is perfectly possible and legal but there would be a lot of surveillance and checking by Police Scotland and the NHS to deter drugs tourism from the North of England or anywhere else. Should Scotland become independent in the next few years there could easily be border controls at Edinburgh on both sides.

What I definitely don’t believe is that there are any more addicts for injectable drugs in Edinburgh than in Tromsø, Groningen, Århus or any other similar place in Europe – so there must be some better level of treatment and monitoring to pick up this sudden rise in drug related illnesses.

that would be unusual practice for England but would not be uncommon in a border area if the same is happening in the neighbouring region. Although Germany doesn’t openly admit it the levels of drug use and tolerance appear to be similar in Lower Saxon areas near NL; this is only masked by the relatively low population density. That would also explain why the ill-fated loveparade 2010 was shifted to that part of Germany from Berlin..

It may well have been a Scot who told me amfetamine was also prescribed there but in a very low key way and only within certain regions/healthcare facilities – its availability was equally sporadic. In either case it needs a doctor with a specialist license from the Home Office and might have been part of an experiment by one or more teaching hospitals, possibly working across borders. Unfortunately much of this info is (unlike computer science) buried behind paywalls and/or kept quiet for security reasons (if a region gets a reputation for being “easy to get drugs” every healthcare worker there is put under a greater security risk; paradoxically this often means extending the experimental area is safer!) Until the 1980s prescription of the stuff in the Midlands, North and Scotland was still as loose as in many parts of the USA today but the NHS ended up picking up the pieces.

Even the small Asian nations who still tolerate a lot more diversion have clamped down especially after activists in the late 1990s exposed a contractor for IBM in the Phillipines forcing young women to have injections of amfetamine so they could make enough CD-ROM drives to cope with the rising demand for computers. I remember this causing some angst in Europe as it was youth the same who wanted the cheap computers and hardware so we could use them for music/multimedia linked to our drugs/party scenes!

methadone prescription (even for addicts) is less strictly controlled although it seems the whole of Europe dispenses it in the bulky large containers to shame addicts and discourage hoarding; and there are local, national, European and UN level records kept of all addicts (outside the local NHS region the records are anonymised).

Even when I take a 100% legit prescription for my mum to the local GP surgery (which contains no controlled substances whatsoever but the usual amount of medicines a citizen in their 70s would normally get prescribed) everyone other than healthcare workers (who know what the prescription contains) look at you in a dodgy way as they automatically assume anyone below 50 with a repeat prescription is some kind of druggie blagging the benefits.

I live in an area which was once the hub of the regional EDM scene (raves etc) and folk have never been forgiven from the 1990s. It has near enough been airbrushed from history in East Anglia like what the Soviets did with people/scenes they didn’t like. Ironically about 80% of the opiate users here (who haven’t got on the stuff because of getting prison for lesser drugs and being made unemployable) are taking it due to prescriptions for real medical conditions; usually chronic pain caused by work related injuries from hauling around heavy stuff at the docks or on building sites.