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  • globalloon wrote:
    we’re in the process of setting up a youth cafe in the second biggest town in Devon, where there is virtually no youth provision. it’s not squatted, but all resources will be for free.

    They’ve just done this in needham market (this is some small village/town between where I live and where mudstomper lives). Was considering volunteering but work pressures got in the way, after a 12 hour day looking after one network and databases you become less inclined to do another …

    might still do it next year if I have more free time.

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    i find it odd that you are so suspicious of the charity sector; it’s more heavily regulated than the private sector (which you work in) and far more transparent than informal activist groups.

    I’ve found quite a few here to be run by religious groups and people with ultimately socially conservative views (bear in mind I work with and speak to some of these god squad types).

    They don’t agree with aspects of my lifestyle, so I don’t see why I should fund them with my cash. They are all nice and friendly until you start talking about drugs and you get lectures on sin etc.. (I seem to attract these types too).

    Of course SW England may be different, but the history of East Anglia shows the Christian Church has had immense power here and still does, nearly every other person I meet is religious and “voluntary” work has always been part of their operational methods from the days of the “parish dole”

    General Lighting wrote:
    I’ve found quite a few here to be run by religious groups and people with ultimately socially conservative views (bear in mind I work with and speak to some of these god squad types). they don’t agree with aspects of my lifestyle, so I don’t see why I should fund them with my cash. Of course SW England may be different (the history of East Anglia shows the Christian Church has had immense power here and still does, nearly every other person I meet is religious)

    outside exeter a lot of voluntary organisations in devon are dominated by christians, and that prolly represents the population as a whole.

    2 points about that

    first, one of the playgroups we take our older daughter to is run by christian volunteers. there is no christian content in the play (otherwise i wouldn’t go). when we had our second child, they delivered delicious, home-cooked meals for 2 (actually more like for 4) to us for 2 weeks, for free, to support us while we were busy adjusting. while i would actually rather see the christian church giving it’s wealth to those most in need, the ‘ground soldiers’ do know about community spirit. as long as they keep their beliefs and motivations to themselves, i find that quite inspiring :group_hug

    the other point is that if ‘above board’, grass-roots, community organisations are dominated by religious or right-wing people, i see that as a challenge to get involved and break down their prejudices and stereotypes so that the kind of organisations, groups, committees etc start to become representative of all the people who give a shit. sometimes you need to be a thorn in the side to help these people catch up with what century we’re living in. it might take a while to prove yourself, but become indispensable and you can write the policy on “XYZ”… i’m now exercising real influence on local policy makers while 4 years ago (when i first moved back here) i was seen as an anarchist bum :banana2:

    as far as giving money to charity, i almost never do, except this year at work we had a whole discussion about xmas cards, so we decided to buy some goats and bees for developing countries and when we receive a xmas card from someone we work with, we can send them an email to say “we are giving you a goat, which lives in ……”

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