@General Lighting 409590 wrote:
both real incidents and false allegations are more common today.
Rape more common these days? That would be a whole debate in its own right considering it wasn’t that long ago it was legal to force your wife to have sex with you. I spose in the tehnical sense it could be true but its more due to the fact that we would now define more things as rape perhaps?
@1984 409592 wrote:
Rape more common these days? That would be a whole debate in its own right considering it wasn’t that long ago it was legal to force your wife to have sex with you. I spose in the tehnical sense it could be true but its more due to the fact that we would now define more things as rape perhaps?
Marital rape was made an offence in the UK in 1992. Thats 18 years ago now. Even then people getting busted for it is rare.
This rise in offences is much more recent, it tends to tie in with the increased opening hours of alcohol-fuelled night time venues, and a backlash against feminism/womens rights which occured starting from the mid-late 1990s.
@General Lighting 409595 wrote:
Marital rape was made an offence in the UK in 1992. Thats 18 years ago now. Even then people getting busted for it is rare.
This rise in offences is much more recent, it tends to tie in with the increased opening hours of alcohol-fuelled night time venues, and a backlash against feminism/womens rights which occured starting from the mid-late 1990s.
but in simple terms working out if its an increased reporting of such crime rather than a real increase is tricky is it not?
@1984 409612 wrote:
but in simple terms working out if its an increased reporting of such crime rather than a real increase is tricky is it not?
The increased reporting started in the mid 1980s due to the advent of feminism/womens rights, and slightly better treatment of rape victims in some areas by the Police (it was notoriously bad in the 1980s) – particularly the recruitment of more female officers, the decline of “Life on Mars” type policing and the NHS working alongside the Police.
Yet the amount of incidents has still increased (particularly since 1999) although convictions have gone down.
@General Lighting 409625 wrote:
The increased reporting started in the mid 1980s due to the advent of feminism/womens rights, and slightly better treatment of rape victims in some areas by the Police (it was notoriously bad in the 1980s) – particularly the recruitment of more female officers, the decline of “Life on Mars” type policing and the NHS working alongside the Police.
Yet the amount of incidents has still increased (particularly since 1999) and convictions have gone down.
🙁 :hopeless:
its also worth looking at this in the wider context of violence against the person, especially linked to the night time economy which has also vastly increased and was going up even in better economic times.
And what gets reported to the Police, particularly amongst young people, is a fraction of what really goes on.
@General Lighting 409629 wrote:
its also worth looking at this in the wider context of violence against the person, especially linked to the night time economy which has also vastly increased and was going up even in better economic times.
And what gets reported to the Police, particularly amongst young people, is a fraction of what really goes on.
Makes me wish I hadn’t been to ill to keep up my criminology degree. It is a very interesting subject.
yeh I was wondering if its the actual increase in reporting – as before domestic violence – or rape suites I know people tended not to report – or the increase in actual incidents –
but as GL says in economic downturns violence – esp domestic violence- goes up substantially :hopeless:
@Tank Girl 409635 wrote:
yeh I was wondering if its the actual increase in reporting – as before domestic violence – or rape suites I know people tended not to report – or the increase in actual incidents –
but as GL says in economic downturns violence – esp domestic violence- goes up substantially :hopeless:
I used to listen to the radio scanner a lot in Reading and it was bad for serious violence even during good economic times – even around 1997-1998. I think though like London there was a lot of inequality, you had yuppies next to shitty council estates so its not surprising stuff kicked off.. there was also a definite backlash from working class and even middle males against the rise of womens liberation – it was laughed off as “postmodernism/irony” but there was a much darker side to it..
yeh – but the figures show its worse in times of ecconomic downturn
cant find the figures I was presented at in my last ‘domestic violence awareness training’ (which is now mandatory) and ‘vulnerable adults’ etc
but a brief google:
Recession blamed as domestic violence cases soar by 1,500 – The Scotsman
Growth in violence against women feared as recession hits | Society | The Guardian
Crime News – 1 in 5 think domestic violence is justified | Crimestoppers UK | Crimestoppers UK
@Tank Girl 409648 wrote:
yeh – but the figures show its worse in times of ecconomic downturn
In Reading it was starting from a bad position already – due to the successful attacks by the right wing on feminism – then indeed it indeed got worse from 2001 when we had the last recession. and now we are at a situation which is worse than the 1970s.
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