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  • This court case just shows how divided society is and how entrenched views are – this couple (who aren’t exactly young irresponsible people) were busted for a private event on their own family farm, because the fucking whinging nimby neighbours wouldn’t let them have one weekend of fun…

    They made some good points though – if a couple like this go through the proper channels and still get busted – its hardly surprising younger people take the risk of illegal events if they feel they will “get in trouble whatever they do”

    http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&tBrand=edponline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED20%20Jun%202007%2021%3A37%3A07%3A417

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    Woodland wedding courts trouble

    21 June 2007 04:36

    It was a magical woodland wedding ceremony in a candlelit chapel of love, with straw bale pews and an organ.

    But the all-night party celebrating the marriage of David and Sarah Alston ended in a court conviction – and a post-wedding bill, of fines and costs, totalling more than £9,000.

    For the dance music pumping from the outdoor venue near Cromer, ironically including a live band called Dead Silence, was in breach of a council noise abatement notice.

    Supply teacher Mr Alston, 45, and his brother Rob, 48, both from Low Common, Alby, who were the joint landowners of the Bartle’s Wood party site, denied the breach, but were found guilty by magistrates yesterday.

    David Alston was fined £750, Rob Alston £500 and both – members of a well-known Norfolk farming family – ordered to pay costs of £4,000.

    Afterwards David and his wife, who is a designer, were angry that they had been taken to task over their legal party, done in co-operation with the authorities, when many illegal raves were escaping court action.

    The wedding party, attended by more than 300 guests last August, also featured a home-made beach of 50 tonnes of sand, a hot-tub, a tee-pee, casino, as well as football, cricket and sumo-wrestling fun for the guests. The marriage was formalised at a register office a few days later.

    But it was the all-night music which upset neighbours at a nearby camp site, who complained to the council and saw the breaches of a noise notice which had been served the day before the party in a bid to keep amplified music in check.

    Cromer magistrates heard that people camping at the Deer’s Glade site, at Hanworth, complained – resulting in North Norfolk District Council environmental protection officer Davina Romaine visiting the party, on the weekend of August 5-6, and reporting three breaches.

    David Alston said he notified the police, council and neighbours of the party, and said they could have an invitation if they wanted.

    During the event he liaised with Miss Romaine, turning the music down when advised, and checked with the council call centre for complaints, but was unaware of any problems before the breach was notified.

    He also said the caravan park put up a notice saying they would try to stop the party, “giving the false impression it was an unpleasant affair” causing holidaymakers to view it as a nuisance rather than a mild irritation.

    David Alston added that the type of music being played – a mixture of drum and bass, techno and reggae – may have affected people’s perceptions, with one witness having said she would have found it less intimidating if it had been the sound of Abba.

    Barrister Matthew McNiff, for the council, said the case was simply about whether the notice had been breached, which was a subjective decision by the official using either ears or electronic equipment.

    The “boom, boom” could also be a nuisance if it was no louder than background noise but was out of character to the area – and the Alstons could have simply turned the music off, as they had done during the wedding ceremony so they could speak or be heard.

    Tony Williams, chairman of the bench, said the Alstons’ attempts at co-operation were not the same as compliance, but that the breach was negligent rather than intentional.

    The level of fines, which could have been a maximum of £5,000, reflected their previous good character, and Rob Alston’s lesser involvement.

    David Alston told the magistrates he was devastated the matter had ended up in court.

    Afterwards he added that they would consider appealing, as it was “ridiculous” the council had picked on a wedding, while Sarah said it did not send out a very good message to youngsters who might be encouraged to hold illegal raves, having seen

    the problems a legal party had suffered.

    Council environmental protection team leader Mark Whitmore said they worked hard to allow the party to take place by talking to the Alstons, but their “failure to comply with reasonable requirements” resulted in the court action, adding: “While this party was not all illegal rave, the effects were the same on local residents.”

    But despite the hefty price they paid, the bride and groom felt the event was “still all worth it – it was the best day of our lives”.

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    complete wankers!! why do sad moaning ppl have to spoil other peoples happiness :you_crazy

    Makes me so bleedin’ angry!

    Selfish, whinging, depressing, boring, sad, interfering, vindictive, self obsessed tossers.

    It is so sad I feel

    why can people not just learn alittle tolerance – it doesnt sound as if it was a regular event that they continually endured – for fucks sake – it was :
    1) meant to be a joyful occasion (that these days cost enough let alone fines!!!) and
    2)only one weekend out of 52 !!??

    makes you wonder just how unhappy ppl must be to ruin anothers happiness

    unbelievable!!!! That just proves what this countrys coming too.

    odear :you_crazy

    It does make it hard to make a case for doing things legitimately if a wedding party gets busted for this :you_crazy after going to all that trouble to liase with the authorities 🙁

    I have to say that I feel from what was in the article that the complainers have been very selfish here – it was an one off event and they knew that. A small amount of indulgence and generosity of spirit would not have gone amiss on such an important family occasion for the happy couple. :hopeless: Instead of which they have been taken to court and fined for celebrating a lifelong commitment to each other because others are so intolerant of people enjoying themselves in ways they do not agree with.

    that will teach them not to forget to invite the neighbours along next time…

    They did invite the neighbours…

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    David Alston said he notified the police, council and neighbours of the party, and said they could have an invitation if they wanted.

    hm, the interesting thing for me here is that the council issued the noise notice “THE DAY BEFORE THE PARTY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN CHECK” – so, this couple were screwed the minute they went down the legal route.

    The noise abatement order was issued BEFORE there was any noise?? is that legal – how can you order someone to stop a noise that has not yet occurred..??

    shame they got so much hassle for it. sounds like it would have been a wicked party

    They should have done what my mum did, she went to do a new years party last year out on the green infront of her bungalow, anyway she invited all the neighbours to join in, most were up for it but a couple of them complained.

    Anyway 2 days before NYE she got an abatement notice from the council, so she then typed up a formal ‘Notice Of Declination’ – stapled that to the abatement notice and returned it to the council. No further action was taken due to the reason that the abatement notice had been declined. First time the council had this happen and they didnt know what to do, but my mum was well within her rights as she was not the organiser, the whole neighbourhood was organising it, was just her idea thats all.

    And the irony of it all is…. back in may this year my mum got elected as councillor haha!

    So if you ever get served with an abatement norice, return it with a formal notice of declination.

    I will try to get my mum to type up a draft and host it somewhere for all to see should you ever need it cos it basically makes the abatement notice useless.

    sounds very useful Richie, please post it up if you can

    but if i read the article right it says they turned the music down when the council turned up

    what the fucking fuck?

    I think the problem here is that the Norfolk farmers didn’t have the full support of their neighbours (and the customers of the caravan park), unlike Richie’s mum..

    There is a lot of stubbornness and simmering resentment in East Anglia, its a mixture of original “bumpkins” and “refugees from Londonistan”.

    A lot of geriatric Londoners, particularly from North and East London pay to stay in these caravan parks simply to get back to a way of life similar to the 1950s (there are places round here which look like they haven’t changed much since back then!) and they want to escape (at least for a week)the stuff like illegal raves, multicultural communities, political correctness that they find in London. They are the original Alf Garnett types and they feel beseiged and livid at what “their” country has become, and are spending the last days of their pitiful existences still trying to fight back.

    plus the caravan park owners were willing to help them in their complaints to the authorities….

    I suspect the farming family were seen as “young upstarts” as they were only in their forties and dared to hold this unconventional event!

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