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Currently there are double the number of Police cars on routine patrol in Ipswich (including fast traffic and armed response vehicles) especially in areas with higher multicultural populations and around school collection time (14:00-16:00 depending on type of school).
I’d expect this in London and other cities but to be fair Ipswich has remained fairly safe and tolerant in comparison; although I can’t help but wonder how much of this is because there are bobbies watching to make sure people don’t do anything out of order (and Norfolk is coping as the extra units are now shared between the two counties)
However I’ve noticed a slight increase in tension amongst teams of younger staff if they are a mixture of English and European people and older work colleagues who have children and grandchildren have told me there is tension rising with namecalling of kids and families; other staff at work who are from overseas are saying stuff like “if we go back to our country on leave can we return and keep our jobs? will we get stopped at border control now?”
also all the younger people who voted Brexit have suddenly realised their foreign holidays and duty free goods are more expensive…..
That said I don’t think there is any major threat and although the ARVs and traffic units look scarier I suspect the main reason they are there really isn’t because there are maniacs with guns but during bad economic times people become more angry and distracted when driving and more collisions occur.
I remember the same in the USA in the region where all that oil was pissing out everywhere near gulf of Mexico, the sherrif was interviewed on the BBC and said had SWAT teams on per$manent standby and FBI assistance but his force actually had to deploy more traffic resources and the family protection teams as domestic disputes rose through the roof (I am also seeing a lot more SNT (safer neighbourhood team) activity on the estate I live in and seen two bluelight runs in the last two days))
How are the wankers going to get to Ibiza??
@Shakyamuni 985240 wrote:
How are the wankers going to get to Ibiza??
the same way they did prior to the 1990s – only that they are less likely to be allowed to take the piss over there and if they get caught selling drugs or anything else will have to sit in the can for the full stretch rather than blagging it on human rights laws to get sent back to blighty halfway through..
To be fair one thing I’ve noticed in Ipswich is all the older people from different ancestries are all sticking together.
I had to get a taxicab home from an appointment in town earlier today (there was nowhere safe to park my e-bike in this area and I didn’t care to haul a heavy tool bag 3,5km uphill) – it is Eid today so taxis were thin on the ground (I couldn’t even get one by phone and had to walk to the taxi rank) – there were only two there, the one at the front was driven by a Bangladeshi dude and there was a white driver in the second one.
The Bangladeshi dude was busy with what I thought was booking on via a smartphone (he was in fact sending “Eid Mubarak” messages to his extended family) as his “for hire” light wasn’t showing clearly; so the white guy sounded the horn on his car. I thought he was signalling to me that his cab was available but rather than just “steal” the custom which he could have done he was alerting the brother up ahead he had a customer and to put his for hire light on!
The journey back was somewhat surreal; like getting a taxicab back into 1990s (it was a TX1, unusual to see this far outside London, the driver was a fair bit older than myself and resembled (and drove) in a similar way to Asian taxi drivers from that era ( (I guess the prayer and fasting must do them some good as the guardian angels made sure all of us got back safe) :laugh_at:
Also the West Indian lady at the tobacco counter in the supermarket (in larger UK shops these are separate from the rest of the checkouts) handed over the cigs before my transaction had cleared (and I didn’t get carded either) which is a sign of trust that I’m not some underage scally who is going to do a runner (mind you the brands of cigs I buy probably identify me as an Asian “uncle” approaching middle age :laugh_at:)
“Do a runner” is a hilarious turn of phrase.
Old folks gotta stick together as they’re going to get pissed on by the next generation and so it goes.
I think to some extent the generational issues work both ways – I feel genuinely sorry for todays teens and 20 somethings as they are unable to have half the fun that my generation did in the 1980s/1990s in part due to the backlash we caused especially during the more optimistic and hedonistic times of the 1990s.
I will admit myself are many things I did back then I am not proud of (as they could easily have gone badly wrong and harmed others as well as myself) which I wouldn’t recommend any young person doing (they would also be 10 times likely to get nicked for them) and even the more fun things I got up to were sailing close to the wind (such as accidentally cutting across the local buses safety critical radio comms with pirate transmitters), and some of the later warehouse parties and outdoor events must have cost other folk a shit ton of cash to clean up the buildings or fields afterwards (even when the ravers did try it was rarely sufficient).
Even 10 years ago I noticed a lot of the youth were only living out a “reheated” version of 1990s culture and doing it at 3x the speed ( so they burned out quicker) which seemed silly to me but I think one thing that has changed is the sheer pace of life and social conditioning via mobile devices and corporate social networks.
we had all the tech 10-20 years ago – including the Internet, digital cameras, mobile phones etc and it was possible to create and share content but it had to be done in stages with different devices so folk would curate/edit their content and it was consumed in a different way.
It was perfectly acceptable after a hard weekend to switch off your personal mobile phone (if you needed one for work they usually supplied it so it had a different number) whilst recovering on the comedown; and listen to a mix tape or radio show alone and then gradually during the week re-emerge to meet up again with friends (you normally did in person, after actually speaking to them on the telephone, as not everyone used email and SMS messages didn’t always travel across networks back then!)
Cameras were separate devices obvious in their appearance; folk at raves were paranoid about detectives so you would always ask before taking photos – some crews had “semi official” photographers (I was one, some of my old photos are slowly being uploaded to Flickr) although photos were initially shared on physical media such as CDs amongst trusted people; those which did get uploaded online were carefully checked to ensure they didn’t pose any security / privacy risks…
Thus groups of friends had space from each other as well as being able to be in contact 24/7 – and those people you had on your mobile phone directory (or even written down in notebooks, on scraps of paper pinned to a wall by a fixed line telephone etc) were your real friends – not a loosely related bunch of people intermingled with randoms spouting their opinions herded together by some advertiser funded software algorithm which thrives on stirring up conflict in the name of “debate” to put up more shitty ads on peoples screens.
I’ve seen this toxic environment developing on “social media” over the last few years in different European languages (not just within the UK) so stuff like Brexit is hardly surprising – at the same time its hard to blame younger people as they haven’t had any better teaching although it looks like some hard lessons lie ahead…
Update: over the last few days the ARV/Traffic units have been redeployed to more serious incidents not involving migrants (there were two bad crashes in town a body found elsewhere in Suffolk and a shooting in Norfolk) The normal SNT (Safer Neighbourhood Team) units (the modern British term for the “local bobby”) have taken over – there are still double the amount of cops in town. This may not however be a bad thing.
Interestingly everyone on Norwich Road (on foot, bicycle or in a car) is currently being really polite to one another and obeying all the traffic laws and taking care around the school entrance! The ride to work was more like something you would see in mainland Europe than in England (somewhat ironic given what prompted the extra Police units!).
I’ve heard from colleagues who are parents that schools are reminding both parents and pupils about standards of acceptable behaviour and the cops as well as local authorities, community groups and faith groups (who all work together here and to be fair do a decent job of it considering Ipswich is not quite as affluent as SE England) have already had to deal with tensions caused by migration 10-15 years ago as the influx of young overseas citizens wasn’t well received by English people the same age who had to compete for jobs against them, as well as cultural difference and uneven gender distributions.
Ironically the Police Commissioner supported Brexit thinking there would be less fear of crime and less costs to the Police and public sector!
@Shakyamuni 985254 wrote:
“Do a runner” is a hilarious turn of phrase.
Old folks gotta stick together as they’re going to get pissed on by the next generation and so it goes.
Generation X, Y and Z bro.
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