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December 18, 2009 at 2:17 pm

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General Lighting

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- in 2008-09 21% less 10-17 year olds received their first reprimand or warning or conviction
- in 2007-08 10% less 10-17 year olds received their first reprimand or warning or conviction
DCSF: Youth Crime: Young people aged 10-17 receiving their first reprimand, warning or conviction, England, 2008-09

Although people say govt statistics are often spun, I have also been independently monitoring crime figures in SE England (and more recently Eastern England) for about 15 years and I would agree with the above, also going by the attitudes of many of our younger users (aged 16-19) on this forum. I actually take my interest in criminology very seriously (ironically I turned down a transfer to the Home Office a few years ago!)

The reason this good news isn’t widely reported is because its being overshadowed by crimes committed by slightly older people (from age 20+ to my age group) but I think as teenagers get a bad press it should be more widely mentioned..
December 18, 2009 at 6:16 pm

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Definitely good news, this is why we keep the Tories out tbh.

Although something radically needs to change about young offenders institutes. I think the current re-offending rate is around 80%. I have friends who work in some of the bigger YOI’s in the country, and they say that 4/5 of young people don’t need to be there. They say as a matter of public safety, then reckon 20% genuinely need to be segregated from public society, but the rest are just there on retributive punishment sentences and would benefit more from rehabilitation programs whilst still having social inclusion.
December 18, 2009 at 7:05 pm

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people of any age should not be in jail IMO for anything other than violent crimes or burglaries of domestic premises (crime against businesses and public sector organisations should be punishable by having to do restorative work to an equivalent financial value of the crime).

short sentences for putting on raves in the forest or for things like non violent drug use or even low level dealing are completely pointless.

The week after this happened tgo some lads in Suffolk the “Norfolk butterfly man” (who goes around East Anglian forests counting butterflies!) posted on here and when I checked out his own website he mentioned the local wildlife trust didn’t have enough helpers/volunteers… would have made far more sense to give the lads a chance of giving up their weekends to clean the forest properly and help the dudes count the wildlife…
December 18, 2009 at 8:22 pm

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i agree GL, i believed people should only be detained for physical harm / posing sreious physical threat to others

and also you forest point is also very good – i think community service helps them to notice the world going on around them
December 23, 2009 at 11:59 am

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30% drop in murders amongst UK teenagers, with significant credit being given to NHS staff for this as well as the Police.

BBC News – Teenage killings in UK drop 30% in one year

I had noticed myself a shift in this years criminality, with the serious stuff increasingly occuring amongst the mid-late 20s through my age group into their 40s, but most of the criminals tend to be those what have “fallen through the cracks” of society and not got careers/education and just live for drink/drugs/hedonism..

I think a lot of todays teenagers and the younger children do actually have more/better moral values than my generation, particularly with regard to stuff like the environment…
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