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  • This doesn’t actually surprise me TBH… I think young people aren’t exactly abstaining but waiting until age 16-18 before they start regularly taking drugs (like how it was 20 years ago)…

    Fewer schoolchildren are smoking, drinking or taking drugs, according to an NHS report which contradicts the widespread belief that such behaviour is increasingly popular with young people.
    The proportion of 11- to 15-year-olds who have taken drugs on at least one occasion has fallen from 29% in 2001 to 22% last year. And the proportion who admit to having ever used alcohol has dropped from 61% in 2003 to 51% in 2009. But the biggest decline has been in smoking. When the study began in 1982 53% of participants said they had smoked at least once, down to 29% last year.

    NHS reports fall in drug, tobacco and alcohol use among schoolchildren | Society | The Guardian

    It’s cos the generation that every one was going .. “omg they worce then ever” have now got a bit older.

    And besides .. all theese statistics are a load of bollox imo. not an acruate representation of the real numbers.

    even if they are spun its better than a reported rise in drug/alcohol use, particularly for the younger people on here as they would be subject to more clampdowns..

    Also a lot of older people I know have kids aged 11-18 and these youths are a lot more level headed and straight laced than I was. Even the teenagers on here are more clued up. its not they don’t party but they are definitely smarter, and many are now starting taking drugs later in life or being less bait/obvious about doing so.

    I also suspect that 10-15 years ago youths thought it would be fun to exaggerate their alcohol/drug use (especially in the cool britannia/britpop days it was tolerated) but smarter ones now realise doing so gets stuff like CCTV and sniffer dogs in school, so its sensible to try and put across a bit of positive spin..:wink:

    Oh yeah it’s a good thing … epecialy if it’s correct.

    It’s not so much that the results are spun .. they are just worked out on sketchy avrages that arn’t compleatly acruate.

    here’s the source. it is a small percentage but if the NHS tried to sample any more they’d get in shit from the right wing for asking kids personal questions/encouraging drugs/wasting public money.

    Smoking, drinking and drug use among young people in England in 2009 | The NHS Information Centre

    my PDF reader is hosed or I’d try and ascertain how they select the kids/schools etc, as if its not done properly/anonymised teachers are obviously going to try and get the goody two shoes kids to participate rather than risk being shown up in league tables.

    Looks like there really is a depression, people pushing drugs to young uns at the school gate has declined!

    @p0ly 392127 wrote:

    Looks like there really is a depression, people pushing drugs to young uns at the school gate has declined!

    I think it is actually the case!

    in reality rather than media stereotypes, older kids mostly from school years 11 to 13 obtain drugs from their slightly older friends. Someone aged 18-21 buys a bulk amount from middle level dealers, this gets re-sold down the chain by the younger teenagers (often cut or sold as short deals). Often these drugs are provided to the youths on credit for resale.

    Anyone older than this either doesn’t want to “hang around with kids” or would feel very uncomfortable selling drugs to them, particularly people in their late 20s to my age. Even dealers have “morals” – especially those with children of a similar age or recent parents – One set I know of turn away customers they consider to be too young!.

    it makes pragmatic sense though as current child protection laws and moral outrage means they would get in way more shit if things went tits up – including losing custody of their own young children, or being put on one of the various lists what say they are unfit to work with kids..

    with an economic depression, late teens/20 something low level dealers do not have the cash to buy as much drugs as previously, and often reserve them for the more reliable customers of their age and above as opposed to young teens who could get them in trouble or don’t or can’t pay their debts for various reasons.

    as for the legal drugs, there is a lot more enforcement of age restriction laws these days. Even I have to carry a proof of age card as I am young looking enough to get caught out on the “challenge 25” in many areas, they contain a fairly hard to forge hologram type card and every time mine has been checked even the shop staff seem to know exactly what format to look for.

    @General Lighting 392152 wrote:

    I think it is actually the case!

    in reality rather than media stereotypes, older kids mostly from school years 11 to 13 obtain drugs from their slightly older friends. Someone aged 18-21 buys a bulk amount from middle level dealers, this gets re-sold down the chain by the younger teenagers (often cut or sold as short deals). Often these drugs are provided to the youths on credit for resale.

    Anyone older than this either doesn’t want to “hang around with kids” or would feel very uncomfortable selling drugs to them, particularly people in their late 20s to my age. Even dealers have “morals” – especially those with children of a similar age or recent parents – One set I know of turn away customers they consider to be too young!.

    it makes pragmatic sense though as current child protection laws and moral outrage means they would get in way more shit if things went tits up – including losing custody of their own young children, or being put on one of the various lists what say they are unfit to work with kids..

    with an economic depression, late teens/20 something low level dealers do not have the cash to buy as much drugs as previously, and often reserve them for the more reliable customers of their age and above as opposed to young teens who could get them in trouble or don’t or can’t pay their debts for various reasons.

    as for the legal drugs, there is a lot more enforcement of age restriction laws these days. Even I have to carry a proof of age card as I am young looking enough to get caught out on the “challenge 25” in many areas, they contain a fairly hard to forge hologram type card and every time mine has been checked even the shop staff seem to know exactly what format to look for.

    Why wouldn’t they lol

    when i went in wetherspoons the other day they actually have a scanner thing to check your card is real.

    @p0ly 392175 wrote:

    Why wouldn’t they lol [/quote]

    You get different kinds of dealers. some of them enjoy the gangster/power trip element (ironically they tend to be the rubbish ones and more likely to get caught, they often are also the younger ones).

    others just enjoy drugs.. 😉

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    when i went in wetherspoons the other day they actually have a scanner thing to check your card is real.

    yep they have them in Reading as well. I think its something to do with TVP and NHS South Central working together.

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