@smokemary 986231 wrote:
But you could say the same about clubs especially over here when u have to travel 4/5miles to get to the closest pub or club. People drink and drive its never goin goin to stop its all down to that person and same with over doing it at a party, near all clubs have police outside come closing time. Same can kinda be said about ambulance people do not listen and do not no when to say no and calm down which links that to the party lasting 2 days . Your just askin for trouble then.
Sure look into here about the holy lands with students and drinking in fresher’s week its all one free party and the only real trouble is noise and mess
the transport problems vary with regions. In London and SE most events (whether or not licensed) are confined within smaller areas and/or can be reached via public transport or walking. When me and my friends were organising events in SE England around 2002 a senior traffic cop actually praised us for holding one in a warehouse just on the outskirts of town rather than far out in the countryside as he acknowledged it was better for traffic safety.
The wider issue though is money – people who don’t go out late at night at all (an increasing majority in my town) are way more resentful about any perception they are subsidising others fun than 10 or 20 years ago.
Licensed events have to pay for the extra cops and ambulances and round here the rules are if they won’t pay they don’t get a license so fuckloads of venues have closed. People don’t realise or don’t care its the govts austerity against public services causing the problem rather than people taking any more drugs or booze (the numbers are declining in England).
University students are begrudgingly tolerated to some extent but even they are clamped down on – I know the folk who run students union bars and a few profs/lecturers and its now in students contracts that if they cause anti social behaviour they risk being expelled or denied their degree certificate even if they are academically high performers, this has been going on since late 1990s.
Incidentally was reading the press releases of Polizei Bayern about the Oktoberfest; there was a shit ton of incidents there including robberies, violence, tension between various racial groups, including English speaking people fighting each other but the Germans and Austrians were no better themselves. Looking at the report for 2016-09-25 it basically doubled the crime in the Munich area which is already under strain due to existing crime problems and terorism fears.
Of course it would be unthinkable for Germans to cancel the Oktoberfest, but many reports quote that 1 litre of Bier is now €10 or more, which is even more than at an equivalent quality beer festival in England when they happen.
