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The Professor (and some counterparts in respected UK Science Universities) do have a point but that also was the case when cathinones (and the 2C-* series on NPS before them) were classified. (He mentions this too in the article below).
It is also the case that increasing clampdowns of Class A/B/C substances (that do have accepted medical use) “against diversion” also divert resources away from treatment of both humans and animal patients. I have personally witnessed this in my current employment – senior healthcare staff who would be welcoming a new patient on their first day in what is often a strange and frightening environment are increasingly spending this time booking in their prescribed controlled drugs whilst the newer, less experienced staff deal with the patient ( to the point they have expressed opposition to current laws, and these people are qualified healthcare professionals).
Ironically some of the customers of NPS suppliers are the Police and NCA; not because of any dark conspiracy but because its a safe way of obtaining chemicals to train detectives and sniffer dogs with; without the hassle of getting a Home Office license for the “real stuff”..
A shame really, dose is all that determines the difference between medicine and posion, shame that people getting high because of a legal loophole forces them to shut down the whole game and therefore precluding what could be valuable research.
@Digital Buddha 599857 wrote:
A shame really, dose is all that determines the difference between medicine and posion, shame that people getting high because of a legal loophole forces them to shut down the whole game and therefore precluding what could be valuable research.
and not just in one European country but 27 others and the Asian countries which closely follow Europe with regard to healthcare research (as nowhere wants to be seen as “lenient” and become a “global drugs tourism capital”).
hopefully full prohibition of everything is such a boondoggle that they have to roll all the laws back to allow for research to take place and to get off the little guy’s back.
some guy here in the on of the flyover states in the USA had a crapton of salvia for medicinal purposes and got a hefty prison sentence
we had exactly 1 study on psychedelic drugs in the USA in a 20 year period… welcome to the dark ages U.K.
unfortunately what you have in Europe today is 28 “little guys” all spying on each other and reporting what they find to the next country along or DE/UK (which report back to the NSA).
The only thing that keeps some semblance of freedom is that DE still has a lot of Angst over bad decisions made 70-75 years ago following an economic crisis but DE was one of the first European nations to pass this sort of catch-all law (and was particularly quick to make all the NPS controlled substances). Ironically the only thing that might stop this madness may well be another Cold War as it would mean the EU cannot leave it up to the “Soviets” to do the pharm research and then nick all their best brains/intellectual property like they did in the 20th century.
Even then it would most likely only occur because the authorities are too distracted dealing with real threats to enforce the extra laws they have made.
During WW II all drugs control laws in Europe were effectively suspended; they were only reintroduced rather reluctantly from the 1950s onwards because public healthcare services had to deal with the fallout of addictions on top of treating all the long term physical and mental harm that war causes and the USA were kicking up a fuss about the same “loose prescription” that is rife in America today.
its funny cause most all of the prescribed drugs that you can get high on were discovered ~50+ years ago; all these new substances could be the future of medicine but no one is allowing that to happen
@Digital Buddha 599867 wrote:
but no one is allowing that to happen
other than Russians and those “New EU” countries which were once the other side of the Iron Curtain. They don’t care as much about the paranoia about diversion/recreational use but RU and its neighbours really aren’t the best examples to follow; populations there are even more divided than mainland Europe between tolerance and draconian measures and many of these nations end up treating young people and children as disposable (young people of child bearing age from these countries aren’t all suddenly migrating to the UK or DE for the fun of it..)
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