Party Vibe

sounds like mansfield desert 2004 (the furthest North I have ever been in my life), we tracked that red dust all the way back to Maidenhead and Reading :laugh_at:

Just shows though it “ain’t just norfolk”…

actually I’ve seen riot cops more often in SE England than in East Anglia, although only about 5 times in total in 17 years.

Whats more worrying is how and why it suddenly turns from one set of friendly bobbies to horses and baton charges, something must have happened for the cops to be given the go ahead to clear the area by force.

When it happened in East Anglia last year it was the case a S63 had been served and ignored (although this was also due to confusion with it showing an incorrect date) – however this doesn’t seem to be the case for this recent event.

However cops don’t just do this on a whim, it takes time to assemble the resources needed, and everyone up north was saying “oh the cops are OK about free parties..”

TBH the moment you see cops changing their uniform from normal bobby uniform to “public safety gear” (the “PC PC” term for riot gear) its prudent to get the fuck out of the area as quickly as you can. at this point it means the cops have been authorised to use whatever necessary force to clear the area.

I’ve been in this situation before (in “on top” Norfolk of all places!) but with people being allowed to leave peacefully at an agreed time and the backup units actually being stood down!

They didn’t even search any vehicles on exit, not even the rig van… and seen the same happen at other raves

so what was really happening? were people being sketchy and doing “one last line” and not leaving quickly enough (bear in mind coppers don’t know if its sketchiness or some sort of “fight the babylon” type plan)?

unfortunately the moment you see “riot squad” there is going to be police brutality if people don’t obey exactly what they say. they put on that uniform because they are expecting resistance from their opponents. This kind of policing has been perfected over 30 or so years, from the times when Britain changed and people stopped just obeying authority figures without question (particularly the 1970s and 1980s which were times of way greater social tension compared to today)

if anyone wants to challenge via IPCC or court or human rights laws the tactics used, the one factor would be the timescale between the first directions to leave and the cops assembling units in public safety gear and baton charging. Was any S63 served, and at what time?

there must still be a legal argument thats there should be a reasonable time given for people to get off site before force is used.

However kids throwing rocks or anything of any kind (even small stones) gives the feds an excuse to declare “code 00 situation” (cops under attack) and react with force.

the venue is still someone elses private property so the cops are entitled and expected by its owners to defend it.