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  • amyberthelet;243435 wrote:
    that is not considered a true Christian church as it welcomes even ATHEISTS.

    I could go down to my local church and be welcome there despite being an atheist. And that’s Church of England… although tbh I think this is more to do with the local vicar (who is a very good man with some quite liberal beliefs for a religious figure) than the CofE’s overall policy.

    amyberthelet;243435 wrote:
    Well, I don’t buy it that Obama knew nothing about Rev Wright’s racism – blacks can be racist too! The pastor said GD America in CHURCH!!!!! Since when is THAT being Christian???? And I read someplace that Obama’s family was Unitarian-Universalist…..that is not considered a true Christian church as it welcomes even ATHEISTS.

    There we go again with the judging. Who cares what particular bit of the bible they worship (or whatever it is that makes them different)- they’re christians so they’re on your side!

    Why would an Atheist want to go to church anyway?

    oops, my apologies, that’ll teach me to read the thread. :hopeless:

    i’m sure ur as well aware as the rest of us, that we have a problem. after all, even George Bush knows that, and he doesn’t even read books!

    anyway, hooray for Obama, suddenly the majority of the world likes the US again! :group_hug

    marcusblanc;243444 wrote:
    oops, my apologies, that’ll teach me to read the thread. :hopeless:

    i’m sure ur as well aware as the rest of us, that we have a problem. after all, even George Bush knows that, and he doesn’t even read books!

    anyway, hooray for Obama, suddenly the majority of the world likes the US again! :group_hug

    I wouldn’t go that far! We just hated Bush so much that ANY change is good.

    No – just SAYING you’re a Christian, you go to church etc. does NOT mean that you are in right standing with God! And beats the heck outta me why atheists would go to church…but they do!!! It’s a bit strange IMO……:crazy:

    So Bush made mistakes….doesn’t mean he didn’t do things right sometimes!!!! What would you have had him do after 911 – go and beg the perpetrators for an apology?????

    As far as Obama goes, we’ll just see……

    binge;243446 wrote:
    I wouldn’t go that far! We just hated Bush so much that ANY change is good.

    well, the US is certainly a whole lot more popular than it was the day before yesterday, looking at the news websites! I can’t see a black man/woman leading any of the european nations in the near future, altho maybe that will change now… so yeah, credit where credit is due.

    If Mcain had got in, i don’t believe he would have changed much at all, for example, in iraq.

    so i don’t think that ANY change would have been good…

    amyberthelet;243450 wrote:
    No – just SAYING you’re a Christian, you go to church etc. does NOT mean that you are in right standing with God! And beats the heck outta me why atheists would go to church…but they do!!! It’s a bit strange IMO……:crazy:

    So Bush made mistakes….doesn’t mean he didn’t do things right sometimes!!!! What would you have had him do after 911 – go and beg the perpetrators for an apology?????

    As far as Obama goes, we’ll just see……

    Indeed.

    @amyberthelet 243361 wrote:

    Thanks Ellie….. I know that a President with Socialist ideas obviously gets a high approval in other countries……:crazy: I for one am extremely sad for the U.S.

    I don’t see where any other President had his own private police force – I’m not talking about the Secret Service).

    george W bush has one. it is called blackwater. so now i’ve opened your eyes maybe you will be less worried about the new president

    and socialism has nothing to do with it. whether your nations’ poor have access to health care or a decent education is a relatively low priority to the rest of the world. what does matter is that at least half of the last century was remarkable for forging global agreements that serve the interests of the citizens of the world. your last president and administration acted unilaterally to the detriment of the world time and time again.

    @marcusblanc 243452 wrote:

    If Mcain had got in, i don’t believe he would have changed much at all, for example, in iraq.

    saint barak is planning to escalate the war in afganistan, despite the most senior military strategists in that conflict openly stating it is a conflict without end because it is a critically flawed strategy. you cannot invade and occupy a country to change an ideology. the same figures state that increasing the conflict will simply strengthen local opposition to the occupation. some of the same figures are resigning or have resigned. the government there, who only really have control of kabul cannot be supported militarily outside of their field of influence you cannot win a war if you don’t know what you are at war for because you will not be able to know what victory looks like

    the man is yet another dangerous, war mongering politician who owes 100s of millions in sponsorship to some dodgy multi nationals for his success

    i’m undecided

    @amyberthelet 243450 wrote:

    beats the heck outta me why atheists would go to church…but they do!!!

    maybe to learn something

    you could with trying that

    amyberthelet;243354 wrote:
    Hmmmm, kinda funny how Bush had an EXTREMELY HIGH approval rating after 911!!!!!

    How is someone a ‘nice guy’ who treats with terrorists????? Obama has links to the Weather Underground – also wants to start a ‘private police/security’ (sounds like Gestapo to me!) I could go on and on…….

    dont be a sore loser because your war mongering party didnt win im sure that when somone from your fine state shoots obama it will all go back to normal and oyu can continue to ruin the planet for everybody else

    amyberthelet;243388 wrote:
    EXCUSE ME?????? What did you just call me?????? I already STATED that it is NOT because of his color!!!! OMG……WHY does everyone insist thats automatically the reason????? I and many others in my state voted for McCain…..he is in tune with what God wants (mostly). It is NOT the fact that he is a straight white male!!!!!! OMG….

    And sadly yes, the media in this country IS VERY biased to the left……arts/entertainment……

    I voted for the man who is against abortion,against gay marriage, and who would protect our country!

    you are an absolutle fucking moron. biased towards the left JESUS TITTY FUCKING CHRIST are you actually that blind or is that your excelent education system talking, it makes me physically sick that you were allowed to vote in somthing this important

    amyberthelet;243450 wrote:
    So Bush made mistakes….doesn’t mean he didn’t do things right sometimes!!!! What would you have had him do after 911 – go and beg the perpetrators for an apology?????

    ….

    id have had him find osama bin laden, not kill 1000’s of innocent people and ruin millions more lives out of anger, your country are the biggest terrorists on the planet

    amyberthelet;243435 wrote:
    yeah sorry – the whole ‘change’ thing was meant for the election topic…..my bad

    but you did still say… “not even gonna go into the whole ‘global warming’ thing!” – so im guessing you dont believe in global warming??!!

    i’m afraid we are just gonna have to completely disagree on everything – my blood is even starting to boil. And i’m sorry for your crusade but i’ve never felt more proud to be an athiest.

    Having said that my dad is a christian and he would shout down many of your horrific self-rightious opinions!

    amyberthelet;243404 wrote:
    not to mention your backward social ideas on issues such as abortion, gay marriage, capital punishment… and you still have to pay for basic fucking health care.

    Well it does state it pretty clearly in the Bible – which IS what our Founding Fathers for the most part believed…….not talking about the cap punishment part. And I am perfectly happy to pay for my health care – I do not expect welfare handouts!

    Hold on, what’s wrong with gay marriage? Don’t even go all religious on my ass with this one. I’m Catholic and I’ve searched everywhere in the Bible about gay marriage and the teachings on it – gay SEX is not allowed for the sole idea that sexual intercourse should only be for reproduction, not pleasure. Many Christians read that and get the complete wrong idea and assume it means God’s condeming all homosexuals.

    “An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth…” is that where your ideas of Capital Punishment come from? As in, if someone kills, they themselves should be killed? Where has all your Christian second chances and forgiveness gone?

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