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  • AFAIK this only affects equipment sold in USA – everywhere else in the world (including China) and their Communications Ministries go by CEPT / ERO guidelines which have more sensible ideas about how to allocate radio frequencies across many diverse users.

    In any case this open source firmware has been around for decades – it only seems to be Americans who have managed to upset the weather radar / 4G mobile phones / other nearby comms services with modified SOHO wifi equipment, most likely trying to use it for some business / commercial purposes rather than other more suitable systems although the FCC haven’t helped matters with their bizzare 5 GHz allocations and lower TX power limits compared to Europe and elsewhere.

    As most modern wifi equipment (even USA kit) works well on stock firmware provided end users have some idea about how radio communications works its hardly surprising the Chinese manufacturer (which might also provide OEM equipment for some US ISPs) doesn’t want the bother of dealing with potential compliance issues / reputation damage….

    Reprogrammble routers axed by TP-Link as FCC bans custom firmware ? The Register

    Saw something very similar a while back, maybe that was when this was 1st talked about but I’d read that open source firmwares could be banned but that was gonna be a stupid idea and only certain frequencies should be locked out.

    Sorry didn’t have time to look at that link earlier but just seen another one on the same subject.

    TP-Link blocks open source router firmware to comply with new FCC rule | Ars Technica

    that URL may have got mangled; I think it is this article

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160513/10594534440/despite-new-fcc-rules-linksys-asus-say-theyll-still-support-third-party-router-firmware.shtml

    Unfortunately I looked out of curiosity at one of the open source router firmware sites and its documentation (at least the English version) very unwisely states “it is OK to shut off DFS even if you live in a coastal area; inteference is unlikely”.

    That might mean your WLAN works fine but unless you have a bench full of Rohde & Schwarz / Agilent kit to check the signal levels (and also know exactly what you should be looking for) you are unlikely to know if your countries national weather services (and possibly that of your neighbours) is now seeing stuff like this upon their screens.

    2016-05-17-ZA-PC02.medium.png

    This is from the weather service of Austria. The WLAN signal is across the border in Slovenia – possibly from Podljubelj (DE: Sankt Anna) which appears to be the nearest area with any significant population.

    Although likely to be completely unintentional (looks like a business grade point to point link with a directional antenna) it causes Angst to both countries air traffic control as they can’t monitor the Weather.

    There is a lot of other stuff in the same frequency band (much of it defence related or for specialist civil aviation and maritime purposes) which is why DFS was implemented in the first place.

    UK Ofcom is currently looking at allowing more 5GHz channels to be used (there is a big gap in the allocation that serves as a guard band between WLAN and radars) but would require DFS to be activated at all times.

    Where I live I can see the tidal River Orwell from my window and its a major North Sea shipping route plus the civil flight path for EGSS (London Stansted) and EGLL (London Heathrow) and many military and public service aircrafts – trying to use the top end of the band on 5GHz unsurprisingly often results in the access point being knocked back by a radar and ending up on the same channel as the neighbours stock Virgin Media / Talk Talk equipment (and doesn’t give any advantages in using the lower block of channels anyway).

    Its easy enough if you don’t put some thought into how RF works (or have experimented with other transmitters) and live in a small house to end up sending your signal 0,5km down the street (cutting across everyone else on the same channel) and yet end up with a black spot in your own building – which is why the FCC and other Communications ministries worldwide initially tried to make it difficult to change the antennas and RF settings on domestic WLAN equipment .

    Bollocks, well I’ll guess you know better than I do what article is best so whatever you put is good lol.

    Replying with quote implies I didn’t put any link at all there and pasted the wrong thing it looks like.

    not entirely sure what happened TBH as the subject of the article you posted is correct; the URL tags have been auto-added but the actual link URL is the text of the subject the HTTP in front of it. I didn’t want to simply edit your post in case I also got the wrong article – even stranger is the techdirt link has not been auto converted into the subject title which usually happens. I’d put it down to either some unusual network glitch or the tech sites trying to piss around to discourage users of adblockers/privacy software and in doing so returning a flawed link to this forum software.

    GL, did you just go out of your way to show I probably wasn’t stupid? lol

    to accidentally mangle a link to such an extent you usually have had to re-edit the post, delete the URL whilst keeping the correct spelling throughout. Lets see what happens with this one (related to the subject)

    Wifi Nigel: 5GHz in the UK White Paper (Version 2)

    and this long URL from BNetzA Germany

    http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2010_07_WLAN_5GHz_pdf.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

    The Germans get an extra channel or two compared to the UK – also it does not seem to be any error you have made but some URLs cannot be converted as easily to an “easy to read” subject line.

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