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Now I know valium has sedative properties but for me they seem to be really strong. 10mg will make me ridiculously drowsy to the point that no coffee will even help me. The past 3 days i’ve slept for about 80% of them and can’t really remember fuck all. Is this normal? I haven’t even dosed high by some peoples standards.. (30mg tuesday which made me sleep for 14 hours, before waking up and having some cider and another 5mg and sleeping for another 5, had another 5mg that night and slept for another 8 hours. Yesterday had 15mg and again slept for about 10 hours). WTF. Benzos aint fun at all they just knock you out.. great for anxiety while you’re awake tho lol
To me that just indicates you have a below ‘normal’ tolerance threshold for benzodiazepines. What you mention I would consider normal; except it is off tiny doses. Not necessarily a bad thing, yeah you’re seemingly a little bit more susceptible to its effects than most but that will save you a few quid.
Also you seem to have been coupling the benzo use with alcohol which will exaggerate the effects of both subsrances. Be careful man, don’t start popping these too often or you will become addicted.
Saying that actually for medicinal purposes yes they are pretty high doses for someone who only took them for the first time a few weeks ago. Remember if you’d gone to the doc and been prescribed them for say your anxiety he would likely start you on a couple of 2mg tabs each day or maybe 5mg tabs but one a day.
However yes 30mg is fuck all once you have a tolerance and are able to recreationally binge on them 2-3 days straight without any sleep.
Yeah I know 30mg is a pretty fucking high dose (for me at least) but I really needed it to calm down for the reasons I stated in the PM I just sent you mate. I have friends who have taken 80mg w/ no tolerance and can still function without passing out (though when they do its for ridiculous amounts of time).
Doubt i’m going to be buying valium on a regular basis anyway now that its summer, they are only useful to me for my occasional insomnia, comedowns (Which I don’t plan on having many of anymore anyway), anxiety (which I don’t really want to use them for as fuck being reliant on pills) or when I drink (which I rarely did until recently, but it gives me real patchy memory)
these days i only take benzos for getting to sleep after a night out… i never really understood them as they would just zonk me and didnt seem like a buzz or anything interesting. when i combined them with alcohol it just meant i became unconscious awake kinda; would be doing things but have no memory of it… this wasn’t too great cos when i was taking them i was in a bit of a nutty moment and said all kinds of things that either were nuts, offensive, unfiltered, unconscious etc… some of the time i came on here and wrote some pretty bonkers stuff, that if you remember any off the wall posts by more (well much more than usual, and angry >.>) that was when i was drinking and taking benzos. but when i took them on their own i’d just zonk without any turbulence. it wasn’t interesting and i still had little memory the next day… and i’d sleep like 11+ hours and be like ‘hey, who stole my day and wtf happened in the nothing last night?’
but some people love them… we’re all different and things affect in different ways
It all depends on your ‘GABA’ receptors
Everyone is an individual and so is your brain chemicals
One person may get fucked up on a white (2mg) and one may be able to take a blue (10mg) and stil be standing ( even of drinking alcohol on top)
Read : http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1906860165
For better information. About how substances ( inc alcohol) work and ESP how they affect our brain chemicals
One of the most informative books I’ve ever read
Valium is not good its duration of action and half life is too long. Zopilcone would be your first port of call. If you drive diazepam is not for you.
On another note I cant even feel 40mg of Diaz 🙁
@photographthesun 549912 wrote:
Valium is not good its duration of action and half life is too long. Zopilcone would be your first port of call. If you drive diazepam is not for you.
On another note I cant even feel 40mg of Diaz 🙁
Zopiclone is a hypnotic so yes could help with occasional insomnia but wouldn’t help him with the anxiety he suffers from. Also Zopiclone has some anti-psychotic properties and are potentially dangerous for those without psychotic symptoms. I wouldn’t bother with these unless prescribed, plus they give you that nasty metallic taste.
@The Psyentist 549931 wrote:
Zopiclone is a hypnotic so yes could help with occasional insomnia but wouldn’t help him with the anxiety he suffers from. Also Zopiclone has some anti-psychotic properties and are potentially dangerous for those without psychotic symptoms. I wouldn’t bother with these unless prescribed, plus they give you that nasty metallic taste.
indeed. my bad, maybe xanax if its not for sleep.
ALTHOUGH REALLY; GET SOME CRT, STOP OTHER DRUGS (ESPECIALLY WEED), HEALTHY LIVING, NO MORE DRUGS, GET OFF THIS FORUM, FIND YOURSELF A LIFE.
you can change all these things you are just making a choice not to. You are an adult, the world is yours, the choices are yours; drugie forums don’t help.
Love you 🙂
sometimes it helps in the long run to remember that what we do is a choice. Sometimes it seems an easy choice, but its still your choice. You can have what you want if you choice it.
@photographthesun 549932 wrote:
indeed. my bad, maybe xanax if its not for sleep.
ALTHOUGH REALLY; GET SOME CRT, STOP OTHER DRUGS (ESPECIALLY WEED), HEALTHY LIVING, NO MORE DRUGS, GET OFF THIS FORUM, FIND YOURSELF A LIFE.
you can change all these things you are just making a choice not to. You are an adult, the world is yours, the choices are yours; drugie forums don’t help.
Love you 🙂
sometimes it helps in the long run to remember that what we do is a choice. Sometimes it seems an easy choice, but its still your choice. You can have what you want if you choice it.
Yeah a shorter lasting benzo like xanax could be more suitable. I personally found Midazilam provides a nice mellow buzz while not being very heavy on the sedative effect. Everybody reacts differently though so that could just be me.
The better answer though would be just to get back on track with the training he’s been doing. He’s actually been on PV fuck all compared to like a month ago, this place has been a bit dead lately.
I’m just gonna knock the benzos on the head unless its special circumstances (E.g for a comedown) cause tbh I just end up drinking on them and doing stupid shit and they are far too easy to take when you have them around.
Drugs are badn mmmkay
@photographthesun 549941 wrote:
Drugs are badn mmmkay
I’m highly inclined to think that you’re on drugs now due to the high post count and topics etc and general tone.. could be wrong though..
@Deez 549944 wrote:
I’m highly inclined to think that you’re on drugs now due to the high post count and topics etc and general tone.. could be wrong though..
The fact Tim Minchin has been replaced by a dancing banana suggests something is amiss lol
@Deez 549944 wrote:
I’m highly inclined to think that you’re on drugs now due to the high post count and topics etc and general tone.. could be wrong though..
Im not
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