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  • @Iacchus 389864 wrote:

    You know I cant remember where I saw/read it.. I remember a diagram and the statistics about roughly how long you could colonise the galaxy in.. think it was a book on astrophysics or something but couldnt say. Think we touched on it at university too.

    When we think about the search for life this sketch is very apt and reminding us to expand our minds

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    yeah thats a good analagy (think thats what you call it anyway!)

    what did you study at uni? think you’ve told me before, but cant remember…

    yep analogy is the word. i did physics.. my real interest lies in neuroscience and consciousness.. realised far too late unfortunately and wound up working in databases.. still read a lot of ‘casual’ science but music is my main passion now

    @Morning Glory 50222 wrote:

    Hey there, View on UFO’s

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    @Garry Denke 390516 wrote:

    View on UFO’s is High, a Window seat Best view.

    Lol Gary <3

    Hmm, insomnia kicking in hard and the Relic too exciting to stop watching, so will add my pennies worth…

    Life is probably not unique, the chemistry behind it is unlikely, but with near infinite planets and huge time scale it’s happened before and will happen again. So assuming we’re going to sensibly adopt a dawinistic view of evolution…

    For every human on this planet (i.e. thinking, sentient being), you have a quite a few thousand high level mammals (dogs, cats, rats etc). For each of those, you get a few million invertebrates. For each of those, you get a few billion single celled ‘animals’ for want of a better word. And for all of the common ones of of those you get billions of bacteria.

    In perspective, there’s more bacteria in you than cells in your body. Almost all of the worlds biomass is bacteria. They form endospores which make them extremely tough and able to travel across space quite easily, and they leave evidence that they have been around. every gram of soil contains 45 million bacteria.

    So any simple look at the maths will show you that when (as I say, it’s virtually inevitable) we find evidence of alien life, it will be prehistoric (it’s unlikely to be alive given we’re dealing with every date from the start of time) evidence of bacteria in a meteorite. Not a man in a flying ship, sorry :o)

    Also, we evolve entirely to do with out surroundings. Man has not been around very long, lizards dominated the world for much longer, we won;t last long either, in the grand scheme of things. We look the way we do – with arms, legs, body proportions etc. do do with things like random chance (how evolution works) and our environment. So the odds of another sentient being looking in any way human (like a “grey”) is so far off the chart that I’d suggest not ever becoming a bookmaker if you believe it.

    The only argument that counters this in any way is that someone, somewhere has managed to find ways of getting our radio signals from when we first started broadcasting so they know we exist (they haven’t got that far at all – space is big, and they don’t move very fast), and can break some mathematical facts to do with how you can move through space. Possible, if very advanced perhaps – but why would they give a toss?

    So for me, the maths is overwhelming, we’re going to find dead bacteria first, no flying saucers. UFO is just that, something unidentified, not aliens.

    Peace, and no offence to those who feel differently x

    @Meltown 50254 wrote:

    and light is the fastest traveling thing,

    that’s not quite true, lots of things travel faster than light, they just can’t slow down to slower than it, likewise, things slower can never accelerate to faster than it.

    I’m so boring…

    :yakk:

    @mushroom_john 390925 wrote:

    In perspective, there’s more bacteria in you than cells in your body. Almost all of the worlds biomass is bacteria. They form endospores which make them extremely tough and able to travel across space quite easily, and they leave evidence that they have been around. every gram of soil contains 45 million bacteria.

    i listened to this talk by terence mckenna that said something similar to this. cant remember exactly what. But it was his view on why we became consious beings something like 10,000yrs ago. when beings from another space sent us mushroom spores on a asteroid. :crazy:

    the talks here

    Podcast 228-Trialogue: “The Evolutionary Mind” Part 1

    if you feel that i havent explained it clearly enough! 😉 curse my poor memory! :laugh_at:

    i think humanity has already reached its peak and is now in decline, crumbling way to another ‘era’ of ‘the ultimate predator’… either that or we’ll destroy ourselves. cant see any aliens zapping us soon though… however i feel that if we assume our current understanding of commonly accepted science including darwin theory etc is correct, then inevitably somewhere in the universe a life form does exist… perhaps on a planet in similar condition and environment to that of earth… however even the slightest of difference could lead to massive change. for example life forms maybe able to survive in conditions thought unsurvivable on earth… for example in high temperature, or lack of oxygen.. i think one way of being able to string together a plausible explanation for the ability of life form to live in condition that is different to that of earth… is to enter thought with an open mind… perhaps other life forms do not need to survive on oxygen.. far fetched but they may be able to survive off sunlight…. or who knows what other elements lay undiscovered. that said, if the condition is so different then this life form would be unable to survive in our environment, just as much as we would be unable to survive in theirs.

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    @mushroom_john 390931 wrote:

    that’s not quite true, lots of things travel faster than light, they just can’t slow down to slower than it, likewise, things slower can never accelerate to faster than it.

    I’m so boring…

    :yakk:

    for example gamma rays go faster … the higher the freq of the wave the faster it goes (iirc)

    @DaftFader 391057 wrote:

    for example gamma rays go faster … the higher the freq of the wave the faster it goes (iirc)

    1) Gamma rays are light, ie gamma rays are high energy photons, on the same electromagnetic spectrum as visible light etc

    2) No the speed of light in a vacuum is constant for all electromagnetic waves. The energy of the light is proportional to the frequency not the speed. E = hf where h is planks constant.

    @mushroom_john 390931 wrote:

    that’s not quite true, lots of things travel faster than light, they just can’t slow down to slower than it, likewise, things slower can never accelerate to faster than it.

    I’m so boring…

    :yakk:

    You can make things go faster than light by making light go through a medium that slows it down, (anything does this, hence the light bending effect in water) then accelarating particles to above that speed. You just cant make anything go faster than C0, the speed of light in a vacuum.

    Scientist think tachyons can go faster than light but to do so they must have an ‘imaginary’ mass, because nothing with a ‘real’ mass can go faster than light.
    However these are only theoretical particles and most physicists doubt their existence so I wouldnt go as far as to say lots of things travel faster than light.

    Also did you know some particles go backwards in time? Antimatter to be more specific is travelling backwards in time. Always amazed me.

    Terry Pratchett theorises that royalty goes faster than light because when a king dies his heir becomes king instantly however far apart they are, so the royalty information must travel faster than light.

    @Iacchus 391102 wrote:

    1) Gamma rays are light, ie gamma rays are high energy photons, on the same electromagnetic spectrum as visible light etc

    2) No the speed of light in a vacuum is constant for all electromagnetic waves. The energy of the light is proportional to the frequency not the speed. E = hf where h is planks constant.

    yeah i dunno why i said that lol … i was thinking on the lines of sound is slower then light and lower on the spectrum where gamma is higher up the spectrum then light so must be faster as i was watching a film where stone henge trys to kill the world and they try to stop it using sound disruptor then light as the freq lifted then gamma … >.< .. was a bit mashed at the time and tryed to use that in my explination lol.

    I know freq has nothing to do with point to point speed as such it’s how fast the wave form repeats it’s self .. not moves .. but for some reason it made sence at the time. lol

    Here’s a puzzle for you Iacchus. A dear departed old friend of mine once asked me this question when sitting smoking a spliff on a field on a very sunny day one morning with him when i was about 17 …

    “If you have an object with a beam lamp on it, say for arguments sake a spaceship and it’s traveling at the speed of light. Would the light stay in the lamp? or would it travel out of the lamp at twice the spead of light?”

    lol gotta see that stonehenge movie sounds like a laugh 😛

    Very good question! Bit of a brain bender but the answer is (as far as I remember) no, the light would still travel away from the spaceship at lightspeed, relative to the spaceship.

    It’s a variation of this question which lead to the theory of special relativity. I never really understood it properly, but because the speed of time changes as you increase your velocity, light will still behave normally relative to you however fast you are going.

    I wish he was alive so I could tell him that 🙂

    I don’t think we factored in the bending of time at high speeds effect on light when working out the answer that day lol. Alltho I think I remeber we tryed to work out what light was actualy made of because of this question. 😀

    The film was called “Stonehenge Apocalypse”

    Bad film .. but propper funny because of it.

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