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  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6037345.stm

    The internet could one day be broken up into separate networks around the world, a leading light in the development of the net has warned.

    if this interests you i suggest you go and read the full article 😉

    quite a lot of complex interlinked issues there..

    been reading about this situation for some years now, including a plan (now stalled, or maybe even deployed without fuss?) for various East and SE Asian nations to add an extra backbone to the Internet using IPV6.

    Various stories have arisen from this including an outlandish claim that it was so the Asians could connect their kitchen appliances to TCP/IP networks :you_crazy

    Although there may be limited use for this in professional catering I know of people in Malaysia (one of the most high-tech SE Asian nations) in 2006 who would far rather still select their food at an open air market and cook on an outdoor gas ring (even with the risk of occasional explosions due to DIY cylinder hookups, and roaming feral bengal cats stealing the fish and meat!)

    there also seems to be an amount Sinophobia and sour grapes in many of these reports from the US. (China already has control of the market for internet hardware; take a look at your router and other comms hardware and where it is made)

    I can’t see what the threat is from what appears to be a “Chinese DNS” – if anything this would boost the internet by creating millions of extra users, and AFAIK could be transparently bolted on to the Western DNS system (which is what I think the Asian nations were planning).

    In fact, why not expand it to permit use of other non-Western alphabets?

    They could claim “it could be used to boost censorship” or limit access to non-govt sites but any country could do this.

    Not every Chinese speaker is in mainland China anyway.

    the internet can be and is just as easily filtered or censored by Western countries these days; often at a corporate or ISP level.

    IMO it is far more likely the Yanks will balkanise the Internet by trying to squeeze more money out of it by removing “net neutrality”; they have already balkanised themselves in other ways in the high-tech world such as unilateral allocation of radio frequencies, comms protocols etc…

    The net neutrality bill is in the pipleline now isnt it?
    [as in the complete loss of :hopeless:]

    yanks have just won the right to end net neutrality…

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    In the US network providers such as Verizon and AT&T have effectively already won the right to prioritise the traffic of certain content providers, a power that has horrified net activists.

    As a rough equivalent, Verizon and AT&T would be equivalent to Virgin and BT here..

    this means they can charge extra for “premium” routes such as those for VOIP and streaming media..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7116929.stm

    already in the UK some connections get choked when people download “too much” or use torrents regularly…

    there is a squeeze on bandwidth, and unfortunately also a coming recession that will limit available capital for investing in more capacity…

    the golden age is over . . .

    oh well, we had fun while it lasted

    This forum still worked when we had 512/256/128k circuits (or even dial up!)

    These are 5-7 times slower than todays broadband links (and TBH the impression I get is that I am lucky to get 7-8mb/s on my current broadband as at both work and home I am in walking distance from the telephone exchange)

    Things could get a bit more expensive for level-1 but I expect the radio would still survive as well – maybe the worst would be a greater push for subscriptions..

    its just gonna be the “cash/bandwidth intensive” things like youtube which will really get hit as if people find it harder to use them the advertisers will walk away…

    also torrents / peer to peer might become more problematic, but maybe that will encourage more people to make their own content/software rather than pirate others?

    some communities (particularly those where people live in adjacent properties/plots of land) can also create their own community networks using both wired and wireless links. You may need one or more techies amongst this community but it is perfectly feasible and has been tried and tested over the years.

    one ISO container of kit (which could be recycled computers) could literally provide a village with 100MB/s “village intranet”, and a fast external connection using shared conventional broadband links..

    jesus GL how do you know all this stuff!

    tarifa wrote:
    jesus GL how do you know all this stuff!

    from being curious about communications, computers and technology since the 1970s, and growing up at a time when that curiosity was nurtured and developed in Britain (the 1980s was a boom time for IT) and in an area where ICT teachers encouraged you rather than ran dodgy companies electronically tagging kids…

    plus keeping a close watch on what is going on in foreign countries where they still educate their youth about the whole picture with regard to technology..

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