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Hey GL, awesome post :).
Smoke pallmall Black 100s baby..lol the cheapest in my area gotts ta quit ….but I love to use Fent in my homemade light bulb vaps
BAT are making their UK brands increasingly bland (although “British” cigarettes have traditionally contained less flavourings than German ones which are what most “American” blends are in Europe (some flavourings are now banned in USA). They also keep randomly reducing the number of cigs per pack whilst keeping the unit price the same (which they won’t be able to do soon with new UK and EU law), this varies between shops as well..
Today I bought a pack of JPS black (sometimes known as the “Black Death” here in England :laugh_at:) partly for “old times sake” (an uncle who lives in this area smoked them during 1980s and if I was staying with him would let me blag a few) and they are also much are less expensive than other ITL (Imperial Tobacco) brands; a pack of Regal is near £10 now (€12!!!) and I object to paying that much for cigarettes!
Not too bad; a bit stronger than Rothmans blue or Royals in spite of having the same listed nicotine content, a bit like a slightly harsher Regal but not as much as 80s originals which I found almost too strong as a teenager – although some brands me and my mates tried in our teens actually got banned in the whole EU and you can only get them via places like Bangladesh and Pakistan nowadays and even the urban estate I live on has gone “upmarket” so you don’t even have the old style “Uncle Ahmed” shops any more…
I was talking to a German guy last night who said €6 for a pack there which isn’t bad at all. £10 would make me quit if I smoked.
I did indeed quit for some years due to these taxes (and other better stimulants being available) – but ended up falling off the wagon after my mother passed on from the same illnesses as Dad (she had quit in 1980 when my sister was born) – because of my family medical history I doubt if I will be seeing much of my 60s or 70s anyway.
Thankfully (other than during my University days which only lasted 2 years) I have never been that heavy a smoker (I think my younger sister smokes more than I do) – though since the NPS laws my consumption has (predictably) increased. What particularly annoys British smokers (often incorrectly blamed on the EU) is compared with every other European nation that also has public healthcare (other than NO) taxes really are exorbitant. Although tax levels are slightly greater in NL and DK than DE they are no way as bad as the UK.
DE has raised taxes (Tabaksteuer) twice since the 2000s
Nach Tabaksteuererhöhungen in den Jahren 2002 und 2003 zur Finanzierung von Maßnahmen zur Terrorabwehr und drei Erhöhungen in den Jahren 2004 und 2005 zur finanziellen Unterstützung der Krankenkassen wurden 2010 weitere fünf Tabaksteuer-Erhöhungen beschlossen. Diese erfolgten zum 1. Mai 2011, 1. Januar 2012, 1. Januar 2013, 1. Januar 2014 und zum 1. Januar 2015. Die Tarife finden sich in § 2 TabStG.
The first time was to fund security precautions against the rise in global terrorism and more recently to increase the budget for public healthcare.
For an otherwise very safety and health conscious nation they light up nearly as much as the Asian nations and USA (the Mädel as much or more so than the Jungen, although they are less likely to admit to it, thus are underrepresented in surveys). Smoking bans in DE vary across region and are not as strict as other countries (smaller venues can still have indoor smoking areas) and it is still permitted to put up posters advertising tobacco in many areas.
Then again they are stricter against NPS use than neighbouring countries and you can’t even dance on Sundays and other religious days in some Länder!
I could read your posts all day GL.
@tryptameanie 985205 wrote:
I could read your posts all day GL.
I do sometimes wonder if I am turning into the “Asian uncle” that you used to find running a cornershop in many parts of England (do you stil get these dudes up North?) although if I ran one I’d likely last only 6 months before being pulled up by some authority for something “non compliant…” as “we used to get away with it in the 1980s” :laugh_at:
Coincidentally I managed to track down Winston “American style” cigarettes – another brand I used to smoke back in the day when I was about 15 but the corner shop dude didn’t ask for age ID :laugh_at: – Almost as good as Lucky Strike and Camel (similar mix of tobacco types/flavourings) and surprisingly cheap for UK (cheaper than such gaspers as Mayfair which are bulked out with chalk!)
Lucky Strike’s used to be made half an hour from where I live.
@Shakyamuni 985295 wrote:
Lucky Strike’s used to be made half an hour from where I live.
The filtered variety were removed from the USA market about 10 years ago (most likely because an “American Blend” cig is hardly exotic within the USA :laugh_at:)
I’ve read a few young Americans on reddit etc complaining these are unobtanium in some bits of USA (including Alabama which surprises me, surely the holy folk at EWTN would curse at that!) – in the USA the brand appears to have been licensed from BAT to RJR in recent times – they appear to have stopped marketing the filtered variety about 10 years ago but still sell the unfiltered ones as a special order product
RJR brands outside USA are now manufactured by JTI (Japan Tobacco International) but they do not sell the stronger Camel Filters in UK any more, only the mild ones which are premium priced (over £9 a pack).
I have always considered mild cigarettes to be a great rip off and no less unhealthy as you end up smoking even more of them, the only time I chose milder brands was when I was a more nregular pot smoker in my youth due to hippy friends refusing to use stronger brands for rolling spliffs as you ended up smoking more tobacco as well anyway.
That said, as tobacco is a native crop to the USA (unlike in Europe) it seems bizzare that they would close down cigarette factories – and short sighted if cannabis is to be eventually legalised in more areas as in a country where folk apparently buy dog food online (rather than walk the dog to the shops) surely there would be a market for ready made spliffs?
I don’t know really why Lucky Strike’s went off the market but yeah they’re unavailable but still desirable at the moment. The brand has a lot of cache for whatever reason.
The place where people would buy dog food online and never walk the dog is the South, although many people are a long walk from the pet store.
EWTN??
I think the factory shutdown’s are because some of the production is getting moved overseas and demand is lower. Also I think the market for prerolled joints isn’t great because of a number of reasons. Everyone who has smoked cannabis while it was illegal knows how to roll a joint, many folks prefer blunts and prerolled blunts would be a pain to sell because they’d be subjected tobacco and marijuana regulations. It is likely that loose marijuana would remain way more popular than prerolled product in the event of legalization.
Mild cigarettes are a rip off but with special taxes all cigarettes are a rip off.
EWTN == Eternal World Television Network, a global Catholic broadcasting organisation based in Alabama that Mother Mary Angelica set up in the 1980s. In the late 90s I worked for a company supplying them with broadcast equipment, the studio control room appears to be within the convent so the whole lot is maintained by nuns and these sisters had no problems with dealing with complex tech stuff and working on physically heavy equipment with strong and potentially dangerous power supplies – they were also very early adopters of the Internet (and had an on line presence not long after this site).
There are quite a few discussions on ETWN website about whether smoking tobacco is a sin – the consensus (including many replies from priests, monks etc) being that although it certainly isn’t good for you in the long run it is not sinful provided you aren’t lighting up inside places of worship (fair enough as it would be likely to activate the fire alarm) or in the middle of your rosary or other compulsory prayers (you should at least wait until thats done with).
One Franciscan monk did say that it was however perfectly acceptable to smoke a cigar and then start to pray if it is a particularly good one (he didn’t specify the exact brand or type of cigar :laugh_at:). Amongst Catholics worldwide smoking pot is now only viewed as a sin (and increasingly a minor one) if illegal activities are committed and that is only stated in English catechisms (not in Dutch or German!)
Coincidentally in Europe cigarette/tobacco processing factories are now mostly located in the more Catholic areas of Germany (the bits next door to NL in the West and where the mountains are bordering AT, CH in the South) as well as RO and other nations in Eastern Europe – although low labour costs are clearly one factor Germany actually has a very high level of employee protection and social responsibility regulation (which the Eastern Europeans increasingly aspire to emulate in spite of their less developed economies).
One factor in the closure of some factories in Europe (not sure about USA) may simply be that during the 1970s local fire authorities would express safety concerns about factories storing millons of kilos of stuff that is intended to be set on fire easily. The solution back then was to line every factory wall with absest-based building materials; and over the years it was this stuff which made many workers ill (rather than handling the tobacco itself!)
In Europe the same factory or a nearby one usually prints the packaging material which has to be food grade and could potentially be used for legalised cannabis products although it might be the case in the USA that even more so than here everything is subcontracted to the lowest bidder, so the subcontractors are fighting like rats amongst each other and businesses are encouraged to own comparatively little assets..
Curiously JT is still 33% still nationalised by the Japanese Government; although out there sneaking out back for a cigarette is low on the scale of potential harms when the country itself is now increasingly radioactive to the core..
I smoke Marlboro red label 100’s and use Copenhagen dip once in a while. I prefer to stick with the Nicotine lozenges to get my nicotine, but when tobacco use is cheaper..
Blueberry dream atm…..
@RaD 985328 wrote:
I smoke Marlboro red label 100’s and use Copenhagen dip once in a while. I prefer to stick with the Nicotine lozenges to get my nicotine, but when tobacco use is cheaper..
My younger sister smokes the Marlboro lights (or Gold as they might be called now) – she can afford to as she travels loads across Europe for work so rarely has to pay full UK prices as they have also gone up to about $12 a pack now in the UK (second most expensive European country to buy cigarettes in to Norway, although in both these countries and other with higher taxes it hasn’t reduced smoking all that much).
Is Copenhagen dip a modern type of the “good ole chawin’ tobacco”? :laugh_at: if its what I think it is, the stuff is now banned in all of Europe other than in Sweden (it was around in Denmark but the EU court made them stop selling it nay a lot of €€€ in fines)
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