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March 4, 2005 at 3:20 pm

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globalloon wrote:

it definately isn’t just the tories tho

Hazel Blears yesterday was going on about how the government are creating laws to detain people because they think they are likely to commit a crime … whether they actually have or not!

the problem is that both main parties have been trying to steal each others clothes when its comes to law and order… there is now no non-authoritarian alternative left

house arrest laws already exist for British citizens under the ASBO rules

But much of the problem lies with the bulk of the people; they are willingly sacrificing their freedom for “security/safety/economic progress” – many of those who have normal lifestyles/jobs etc are not prepared to give alternative lifestyles any concessions…

and some of these who practice alternative lifestyles are becoming increasingly dysfunctional – its a vicious circle that could eventually result in civil disturbances…
March 4, 2005 at 3:20 pm

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globalloon wrote:

it definately isn’t just the tories tho

Hazel Blears yesterday was going on about how the government are creating laws to detain people because they think they are likely to commit a crime … whether they actually have or not!

and although she was talking about the spurious anti-terror laws, they exact same principle is being used to stop people having a bit of fun :angry:

My mate jasons heard OB say.

“in brittan today its illegal to have fun”

its too true.
March 4, 2005 at 3:32 pm

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globalloon

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Andy_Aztek wrote:

My mate jasons heard OB say.

“in brittan today its illegal to have fun”

its too true.

i was dealing with some cops at one of our parties one time and one of them said to me

“I wish I could just hang out and dance and have fun with my mates on a Saturday night”

I was, “like, give me your badge and comms and I’ll let you”

but a little while later I was checking on them getting into their car to make sure they were leaving… I’m sure they weren’t aware i could see / hear them

I heard one saying “I’ve been thinking of quitting for ages”

so I don’t even think it’s the OB who are to blame (although plenty get well heavy handed and that is not necessary

but in the end they are only carrying out the orders handed down by which ever govt the majority finds acceptable and these pissy little councillors who have way to much power and answer for far too little
March 4, 2005 at 3:49 pm

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globalloon wrote:

but in the end they are only carrying out the orders handed down by which ever govt the majority finds acceptable and these pissy little councillors who have way to much power and answer for far too little

another problem is that the same councillors will accept lobbying from people who fit in with their views of acceptable lifestyles, but many will just refuse to even discuss anything with people they think are “criminals” (this applies to all main political parties!) – so a minority of whingers can easily force the hands of police authorities, licensing authorities etc.

In fact some of them are as bad criminals if not worse if any ravers – we are all aware of young townies drink-related violence, there is bare stuff like domestic violence and hate crimes

I’ve even been reading loads of reports on OAP-age criminals commiting fairly serious crimes of violence, and then a complaint from some screw that “HMP was now becoming a geriatric care home, as more and more 50-70 year old men commit serious imprisonable offences!

Someone once said on SJ “fear middle england before you fear the police” (one of the few pearls of wisdom cast into the trough…)

in the days when scanners used to work you often heard a fuller story, very often cops didn’t initially even want to go in heavy but locals were banging their fists on the front desk of the police station saying “if you don’t stop it we will do the job ourselves”
March 4, 2005 at 4:31 pm

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Andy_Aztek

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globalloon wrote:

i was dealing with some cops at one of our parties one time and one of them said to me

“I wish I could just hang out and dance and have fun with my mates on a Saturday night”

I was, “like, give me your badge and comms and I’ll let you”

but a little while later I was checking on them getting into their car to make sure they were leaving… I’m sure they weren’t aware i could see / hear them

I heard one saying “I’ve been thinking of quitting for ages”

so I don’t even think it’s the OB who are to blame (although plenty get well heavy handed and that is not necessary

but in the end they are only carrying out the orders handed down by which ever govt the majority finds acceptable and these pissy little councillors who have way to much power and answer for far too little

your probly right. but, people always shoot the messenger. i’ve met some well safe officers in my time. ive also met some right cunts who i can only think were some how depreived of something to be that millitant.

thats a wicked story by the way.
March 4, 2005 at 9:03 pm

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Mother sticka’s,..

This is a fuck up.
March 14, 2005 at 11:47 am

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Note the comments from former British Home Secretary (Interior Minister) and now Foreign Secretary Jack “Boots” Straw…

UN condemns UK cannabis laws

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The government’s relaxation of the law on cannabis use was attacked by the United Nations last night.

Koli Kouame, secretary of the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), the UN agency dedicated to monitoring legal regimes of member states, said the downgrading of cannabis from Class B to C could send the wrong signal and damage the global fight against drug abuse.

‘Whenever a government gives a sign which can be interpreted as indicating that a lower danger is associated with the use of a drug, that can cause problems,’ said Kouame. ‘It is too early to judge the impact [of the downgrading], but often the signal sent is as important as the act itself.’

His comments came days after Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, hinted that the reclassification of cannabis, under which users are only given a warning unless there are ‘aggravating factors’, might have to be reconsidered.

Straw broke ranks last week by dropping a heavy hint that there should be a review of the downgrading of the drug. ‘It was done for good reasons, but we may need to review it in the light of experience,’ he said.

His words fuelled speculation that the government is still divided over the much-criticised decision. However, the Home Office denied there were any moves to reverse the change, which went through in January last year. But concern has grown after findings suggested smoking it frequently can cause serious mental health problems.

Cannabis is the third most popular drug after alcohol and tobacco in the UK, where 40 per cent of 15-year-olds are believed to have used it. Possession can lead to two years in jail, with a maximum of 14 years for dealing.

Danny Kushlick, of Transform, a drugs policy campaign group, said that, though flawed, the reclassification recognised that cannabis was less harmful than street cocaine or heroin and that the INCB was living in the past: ‘We are talking about a legal framework that dates back to the 1950s. There is a culture clash with the reality of the 21st century.’

The UK also came in for criticism from INCB president Hamid Ghodse, who warned in the agency’s annual report that the UK had the largest rate of heroin seizures and the third-highest number of addicts in Europe in 2004.
March 14, 2005 at 1:16 pm

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another case of britain being led by an external power. why vote have a government at all if its just a puppet.
March 14, 2005 at 4:37 pm

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elretardo87 wrote:

another case of britain being led by an external power. why vote have a government at all if its just a puppet.

thing is we (along with the Yanks) were quite happy to over-rule the UN to have the war with Iraq…

why can’t people stand up to them now?
March 14, 2005 at 4:51 pm

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i’m personally all for the u.n, in theory, it’s just massively underfunded, which in away is just as well because its also massively corrupt (and we keep sending our reject mps to the un)

stuff like :

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Koli Kouame, secretary of the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), the UN agency dedicated to monitoring legal regimes of member states, said ….’Whenever a government gives a sign which can be interpreted as indicating that a lower danger is associated with the use of a drug, that can cause problems,’ said Kouame. ‘It is too early to judge the impact [of the downgrading], but often the signal sent is as important as the act itself.’

the signal as important as the act? i think legislation should mould itself round people, not the other way round. it is britains fault for not being open enough about what it did, and not producing the research to back it up. of course the u.n tore into the law, its the most flimsy, half arsed law going. it was heraled as a first step to more enlightened times, but its now one step forward, two back.

we should have done what the terror bill crew did, which was propose a massive, over the top bill, that even when you tear massive chunks out of it, its still massive and disgusting. skills.
March 15, 2005 at 12:15 am

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globalloon

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it feels a bit like the UN as an organisation is having to grovel to the US, maybe in order to regain some say in US foreign policy 💡 , following a couple of years of mainstream US media calling the UN assholes for not going with war against Iraq :bitter:

even after Colin Powell showed em satellite photos of a mobile library, I mean weapon of mass destruction :groucho:

it’s a shit law :confused:

prohibition sucks :mad_curse
May 5, 2005 at 3:47 pm

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NikkiD

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Just wondering if anyone was going? Or had any opinions?

NikkiD
May 5, 2005 at 4:08 pm

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heat_blitz

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Yeh I should be heading down this year, missed it the last two years so dont want to miss it again. Hopefully its just as sunny the last time I went!
May 5, 2005 at 4:10 pm

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Just checked the website and it seems the Free Party has been called off! Lambeth council wouldn’t allow it on Brockhurst Park.

The March is still on though but the date has changed to the 15th May.

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May 5, 2005 at 4:15 pm

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Nooo!

Dammit, I heard about the concerns from lambeth council a while ago, but I though they had somehow agreed on a go ahead.

Lambeth councils view if im correct, was the amount of dealers on the streets, which isnt that different for Brixton anyway.

Too bad we lost another great peaceful event. Hopefully I can still make the march on the 15th, although I got some exams to worry about that weekend…
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