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February 6, 2009 at 4:15 pm

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MisterDuck

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DontBeliveTheHype!;306879 wrote:

+1 …
the thing is .. it’s allright for boothy to say moderation is ok .. as this has worked for him .. and fair play .. but the thing is you are not going to know weather or not you have an underlying mental problem untill after it has surfaced … and if you smoke a bit of weed and this happens you will probably be a bit pissed off to say the least … some people will never have bad effects .. some will … it’s russian rulette .. i know loads of people that smoke .. all about the same amount as they are all my mates and pretty much smoke together .. so what one has smoke so have the others .. some are alot more messed up than some others and some are fine … this just goes to show that it can effect people alot diferantly … it’s ok for some one who has allready smoked canabis to say ..i am fine smoking canabis .. but for some one who hasn’t smoked it .. there not going to know untill they do .. if i knew what i know now and how canabis effects me i would never have started smoking skunk ever!

I don’t think there’s any cases of someone smoking cannabis once or twice and it triggering mental illness.

And Johnny is right, abusing other drugs would cause this too – the reason cannabis is notorious for it is because of it’s widespread regular use.
February 6, 2009 at 4:48 pm

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p0ly

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Erowid Experience Vaults: Cannabis – Why I’m Now Taking Antipsychotics – 29852
February 6, 2009 at 4:55 pm

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MisterDuck

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p0lygon-Window;307020 wrote:

Erowid Experience Vaults: Cannabis – Why I’m Now Taking Antipsychotics – 29852

“Six months after I’d started smoking nearly every day,”

My point exactly.

Moderate? Um, no.
February 6, 2009 at 4:58 pm

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p0ly

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On January 15th 2002 I tried marijuana for the first time. It was nice, lots of giggling, hallucinations,. I could even see with my eyes closed. Everything looked like a drawing, or like TV screen snow. But when it all ended and I looked back on the past, all I could see was a gray fog covering everything. I don’t remember my boyfriend’s birthday, I don’t remember mine, I don’t remember any significant dates at all. But here’s what happened:

dunno about u but after her first time she clearly got pretty fucked up. cannot remember ur own birthday from weed? c’mon!!!
February 6, 2009 at 5:29 pm

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MisterDuck

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fair point

however thats likely to be a severe mental illness if its triggered lightly

in which case any even can trigger it, being in a crash, a family member dying etc. or just a minor shock

of course there will be odd cases where it has effected people to a ridiculous extent, but i still think the majority of people will be fine with moderate use

my personal regret of using it was smoking it at 12 onwards when my brain was still developing.
February 6, 2009 at 5:35 pm

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General Lighting

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I first started using cannabis in 1989.

Skunk arrived in Reading (where I then lived) around 1994/5 – I noticed it created slightly more uneasy feelings/paranoia, so simply did it less, less often or only with really trustworthy friends.

As I got older I stopped enjoying the feeling it gave me anyway, as it stopped me getting out and doign stuff (have always preferred stimulants anyway)

Yes I did see people fuck up to various extents but that was often because they didn’t have jobs or college etc and weed was their main social life.

the same would and does happen with any drug where continued daily use doesn’t cause serious discomfort such as ketamine.

that said one risk is where people use cannabis as a comedown drug with stimulants – this can increase paranoia and/or urges to impulsive behaviour but then surely its a matter of controlling your behaviour and keeping your feelings private?

I have always TBH found a certain amount of paranoia/wariness to be a valuable and effective survival mechanism in all situations, you can turn it into a positive and get ahead in life if you can harness it… (for me its worked for 18 years).

What is annoying is how people use drugs as a excuse for scummy behaviour, I think the reason the tabloids and authorities get on everyones case is too many defence lawyers are telling scum to say “I robbed someone/stabbed someone/beat up my missus because I had been smoking skunk” in the hope the NHS will deal with them instead of them doing their time in prison like they should…

Also in some cases people go and see the NHS health professionals (at our expense), they get told “cut down / stop your drugs use”, refuse to do so out of stubborness and do stupid things and cry when it comes on top…
February 6, 2009 at 6:49 pm

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DontBeliveTheHype

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boothy;307018 wrote:

I don’t think there’s any cases of someone smoking cannabis once or twice and it triggering mental illness.

And Johnny is right, abusing other drugs would cause this too – the reason cannabis is notorious for it is because of it’s widespread regular use.

i’m not talknig about smoking it once or twice ..but thats the problem .. some one who is suseptable to mental illness might not get ill at first and think the’re ok to smoke it .. then farther down the line .. say after a year of casual smoking on the weekends . it all goes wrong for them …
February 6, 2009 at 7:05 pm

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p0ly

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DontBeliveTheHype!;307032 wrote:

i’m not talknig about smoking it once or twice ..but thats the problem .. some one who is suseptable to mental illness might not get ill at first and think the’re ok to smoke it .. then farther down the line .. say after a year of casual smoking on the weekends . it all goes wrong for them …

thats how they all go on erowid
February 6, 2009 at 7:18 pm

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wickle

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There was one poor chap who hung about with me and my mates when we was teenagers. when we all first started smoking weed, he was okay, he showed no obvious signs that he was paranoid or uneasy, but as the months went on he began to go really quite after a smoke, he would never say a word and it would give him this weird look in his eyes. i think he tried to ignore these negative effects for a while but me and my mates clearly new that he was not right we spoke to him about it but he never took us seriously, as time went on it got to the point where he would just dissapear home after a smoke.
Funnily enough it werent till we all started experimenting with pills and speed that he packed the weed in, within literealy a few weeks of no smokes he was back to his normal self, no paranoia whatsoever.
i think weed is going to seriously mess up some peoples heads, whether its used in moderation or not tbh, friends should look out for the tell tale signs and let the person know immediatly.
February 6, 2009 at 7:30 pm

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hairygrape

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p0lygon-Window;307022 wrote:

On January 15th 2002 I tried marijuana for the first time. It was nice, lots of giggling, hallucinations,. I could even see with my eyes closed. Everything looked like a drawing, or like TV screen snow. But when it all ended and I looked back on the past, all I could see was a gray fog covering everything. I don’t remember my boyfriend’s birthday, I don’t remember mine, I don’t remember any significant dates at all. But here’s what happened:

dunno about u but after her first time she clearly got pretty fucked up. cannot remember ur own birthday from weed? c’mon!!!

boothy;307025 wrote:

fair point

however thats likely to be a severe mental illness if its triggered lightly

Has nobody ever got like, intensely high to the point that you see things? Sometimes I get strong visuals in my mind that merge into my vision… Nobody I smoke with gets this. Does anyone here know what I mean?
February 6, 2009 at 7:40 pm

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Raj

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When I used to do cosmic yoghurts I used to get amazing visuals 🙂 but not when I was just smoking 😉
February 6, 2009 at 7:44 pm

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hairygrape

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Raj;307043 wrote:

When I used to do cosmic yoghurts I used to get amazing visuals 🙂 but not when I was just smoking 😉

Never heard of cosmic yoghurts… ~What are they?

When I smoke I see loads of shit in my head… I remember seeing loads of twisting green and white coils a few weeks ago. It seems a lot more intense for me than it does other people. Sometimes I think really deeply about how I want my ideal life to be and stuff… Hard to explain, but I’m interested in other people’s views and experiences. raaa
February 6, 2009 at 7:56 pm

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p0ly

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if i eat bare hash i get visuals but normally i just wanna sleep.
ive had visuals from blazing weed before in a dark field, kept thinking there were little metal boxes for plants kept dodging them until i realised they werent real. they were really getting in my way all the time aswell.
February 6, 2009 at 7:59 pm

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wickle

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hairygrape;307040 wrote:

Has nobody ever got like, intensely high to the point that you see things? Sometimes I get strong visuals in my mind that merge into my vision… Nobody I smoke with gets this. Does anyone here know what I mean?

Ive only ever properly ‘tripped out’ once when i was high, and oh boy was I high!
Me and my mates where smoking some super strong grass in the forrest, I must have been about 15, this was the second or third time that id ever smoked grass (had been a resin smoker up till then). We where smoking buckets, not knowing how much grass u needed to get truly high, and not knowing how strong this grass rele was, we began smoking bucket after bucket. Before I knew it i was sat by my own a few mitres away from my mates with my walkman on, all I can remember is the forrest begining to look asthough it was never ending, and even though the forrest was super flat – it began to look as if it was full of steep hills sloping downwards (hard as fuck to explain). I felt like I was playing a part in a video game. every time I blinked I could see loads of flourescent colours, one of my mates was walking about and I swear to god he looked like the witch out of handsel and grettil, after a while I started to feel asthough I was going to whitey, I drank some juice and the whitey feeling passed, followed by a mega case of the munchies..
February 6, 2009 at 8:02 pm

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hairygrape

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p0lygon-Window;307048 wrote:

if i eat bare hash i get visuals but normally i just wanna sleep.
ive had visuals from blazing weed before in a dark field, kept thinking there were little metal boxes for plants kept dodging them until i realised they werent real. they were really getting in my way all the time aswell.

JamZandwich;307049 wrote:

Ive only ever properly ‘tripped out’ once when i was high, and oh boy was I high!
Me and my mates where smoking some super strong grass in the forrest, I must have been about 15, this was the second or third time that id ever smoked grass (had been a resin smoker up till then). We where smoking buckets, not knowing how much grass u needed to get truly high, and not knowing how strong this grass rele was, we began smoking bucket after bucket. Before I knew it i was sat by my own a few mitres away from my mates with my walkman on, all I can remember is the forrest begining to look asthough it was never ending, and even though the forrest was super flat – it began to look as if it was full of steep hills sloping downwards (hard as fuck to explain). I felt like I was playing a part in a video game. every time I blinked I could see loads of flourescent colours, one of my mates was walking about and I swear to god he looked like the witch out of handsel and grettil, after a while I started to feel asthough I was going to whitey, I drank some juice and the whitey feeling passed, followed by a mega case of the munchies..

So its normal? Not like, detrimental to your mental health or anything? I know it sounds silly, but when it happens to me, sometimes I think its making me go a bit crazy or something lol…
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