What is Cocaine?

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March 15, 2008 at 7:22 pm

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globalloon

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JulesDogg wrote:

Try an intravenous injection of 1 gram of 99% pure cocaine hydrochloride and if you’re still alive afterwards you might then have noticed it’s curious and ever so subtle stimulant properties.

it is a powerful stimulant in that it rags your heart rate and blood pressure, but i agree with jonny it lacks many other properties… the ability to talk about yourself in detail with a big red face is about the limit of it. it’s really not very different to speed, except it wears off quite fast, which could be a good or a bad thing, subjectively
March 15, 2008 at 7:43 pm

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MisterDuck

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weirdly the ones i know are alright when they arent fightin, then they decide to go have a scrap :crazy_diz
March 15, 2008 at 9:07 pm

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Joker78

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globalloon wrote:

it is a powerful stimulant…many other properties

Exactly, effecient and fit for purpose as far as I’m concerned. Does what it says on the tin.

The debate was about whether it was a strong stim or not. I don’t think ‘other properties’ really came into it.
March 15, 2008 at 9:31 pm

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quietRIOT

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yes i was messing about …:weee: (i do like to)
but seriously i hate people who cause trouble …when they are pissed(drink sends some people stoopid), in a gang, and football hooligans well i thought they no longer existed really …didn’t they all drop pills and go the hacienda….:crazy_dru

no mr ahc violence is wrong wrong wrong …it has no place ever and solves nothing does it …
(bloody loose cannon that one i tell thee :crazy_dru )
March 15, 2008 at 10:03 pm

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its-a-rave-dave

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Too pricey for me to be bothered about trying, stick with the green and you cant go wrong. :bounce_ci
March 16, 2008 at 3:19 pm

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General Lighting

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MrAHC wrote:

does this mix with free partys?

no, it was more part of the old acid house parties what were run for money by gangsters and football firms

and it was in part because of this the free party scene came about (at least here in SE and Eastern England) to escape from this sort of mentality (as Advance party mentioned around 1994 or so) and it was even actually given a bit of slack in the late 1990s as it was “less hassle than normal clubland”

But once the gang activity and violence comes back into any youth movement the cops feel they have every right to clamp down on it and they are backed by legislation and the support of the “normal people”

look at footy today, most of your ticket money goes to pay towards cops to nanny everyone and lock everyone down, the area is flooded with cops (portman road on a saturday is usually a sea of yellow jackets) if a ruck does happen it lasts about 5 minutes, everyone gets nicked and half of them are old enough to be my uncles or even my father :laugh_at:

for those who go gatecrasher or HTID (yes I know this is unlikely in your case) they have to pay bare amounts of extra on tickets because the cops feel justified in putting extra resources in to deal with any “problems” (i.e people pay to be hassled by cops) and this is because the cops haven’t forgotten or forgiven the acid house days of the 80s.

if/when “hooligan mentality” gets onto the free party scene where no-ones paying for the costs the cops will just crack heads and keep seizing property to try and stop people doing it (as people in Norfolk have found out the hard way )…
March 16, 2008 at 5:11 pm

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globalloon

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i like rugby and cricket

not because i’m particularly into sport, and i really don’t give a shit who wins, but if i am going to watch any sport, i want to watch it live.. like not on TV, but at the place raaa

rugby games i’ve been to… both teams and their supporters all drink in the same clubhouse afterwards… AND talk positively about who played well regardless of which team the were on IME. i’ve been to a few 1st division games and the stands are open for all the supporters… no ends. after all, getting fired about your team is dumb, unless you actually play on that team.:group_hug

cricket is cracking spectator sport too because it is supposed to be so polite. When it exposes competative egos it’s regular entertainmentl

“hawhaw, how unfortunate!” guffawed the man sitting next to me at a village match last summer, after batsman swore at the umpire. i had to agree. the man had made an awful fool of himself, after all.

cricket is a gentleman’s sport. the only reason the confounding rules are there is to give you something to say, before you fall asleep on your picnic basket. when you wake up, you can say the same thing again. after watching a few dozen balls being thrown quite fast, it doesn’t get any better than cricket.

“silly mid off was barely backward!” “he had his eyes on cow corner”.

“is this cider local?”
March 16, 2008 at 5:16 pm

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Tank Girl

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globalloon wrote:

cricket is a gentleman’s sport.

I used to think this until I heard what one of my old work collegues got up to after matches! more like what I’d imagine the rugby boys to be doing and regularily getting arrested..

a great quote from my glaswegian (??sp) boss was

‘first time I ever saw a cricket bat, I was 7 and it was getting wrapped round someones head’ ….
March 16, 2008 at 6:32 pm

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MisterDuck

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i like rugby league, but thats a northern ting, hull fc

i play cricket, i dont really watch it now bastard sky has got all the rights. i can bat but last time i tried to bowl i didn’t reach the wicket :laugh_at:

footy i love it, i know its got its bad things but its exciting to watch, play and the harmless banter is good fun. supportin grimsby is cos of my family, we’ve supported them for about 100 years.
March 16, 2008 at 7:07 pm

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its-a-rave-dave wrote:

Too pricey for me to be bothered about trying, stick with the green and you cant go wrong. :bounce_ci

I would have to agree with you. If someone offered me an 8th of green, or 1g of coke, I would take the green. It lasts longer, its a more interesting high and its cheaper.
March 16, 2008 at 7:55 pm

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globalloon

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Cinimod wrote:

I would have to agree with you. If someone offered me an 8th of green, or 1g of coke, I would take the green. It lasts longer, its a more interesting high and its cheaper.

i would say that comparing price is irrelevant. if someone wants a certain drug enough they will find it and pay for it. lasting a short time can be a good thing (if i get up early i can have a line before work)

from what you say, people are selling coke the same price as green. at that price coke will be stepped all over.

cocaine makes is one of the biggest profit making drugs.

the short-lived, ego boosting, stimulant properties are perfect for image obsessed media, such as lifestyle & fashion magazines.

when dealers marketed thit in the 1970s, they played on the high price as a mark of quality and created this myth that coke is somehow better than other stimulants and worth paying loads of money

in lots of latin american countries a gram of pure flake costs less than 20p at street prices for tourists

the £30 – £70 mark up in europe funds some pretty dark things…. i reckon we should all try not to give our hard earned cash to organised criminal gangs
March 16, 2008 at 8:00 pm

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lilmstrixta

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i do like coke i used to have a really bad habbit when i was 20/21 i wouldnt buy it anymore but i do indulge when i am offered
March 16, 2008 at 8:15 pm

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General Lighting

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Coke is now increasingly popular on the East Anglian party scene

yet it is still about £50 a gram (for anything that isn’t completely pony) same as it was in 1992 (whilst everything else has dropped in price) but its more than I want to spend for a few hours of fun (and then more of feeling washed out, tired, paranoid and your nose being torn to pieces)

I won’t lie and say I didn’t enjoy it, but at the same time I’ve been playing this game a long time and I’ve seen the attitudes on the scene change because of it, a lot more posing and machismo and this is in just the last few years in an area once known for how fluffy/friendly its party scene once was…

also everyone spends loads on a weekend and then moans about how skint/in debt they are during the week, some younger people without jobs turn to dealing or other crime and then the cops find more reason to clamp down..

what globaloon points out is worth noting, as many people think the “bad gangsters” are only in the foreign nations and the media put across that as well,

but it seems that coke is cheap as chips in the nations where it is produced, whilst that sort of price markup would mean the worse stuff is happening in England/Europe.

Obviously for a lad from an estate with no other immediate prospects than dealing, that sort of profit level and opportunity may seem worth fighting or killing for.
March 16, 2008 at 9:09 pm

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i like fly tipping too.
March 16, 2008 at 9:47 pm

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Joker78

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globalloon wrote:

the £30 – £70 mark up in europe funds some pretty dark things…. i reckon we should all try not to give our hard earned cash to organised criminal gangs

This is by no means limited to cocaine, the list must include just about all street drugs, weed, hash, speed, ecstacy etc etc. This is one of the many reasons why the current legislation needs to be reviewed.
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