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drugs really arnt as hardcore as people think, ive been more ruined/dangerous from alcohol that anything else
some people will be alergic/have bad reactions to drugs just like people do with drink,
friend took X
Im sure your friend will be fine in a few days, although it can change the way you look at things but it generally makes people more confident(well care less) about what people think,
If he has had a bad reaction to it talk him out of doing it again, or tell him to try the legal (although they can be more dangerous) alternatives
X only releses drugs which are already in your brain as do all rugs so they shouldnt be dangerous – if your friend was on anti depresants or other medication he may have used/drained his seritonim (the brains happyness drug) which could lead to a long cumdown while his seritonim levels are repleneshed
NB: I am not a doctor or medical professional – but I’ve been on the scene for a while and have witnessed at first hand the states people get themselves into (and their recovery)
this sounds (from the description alone) that your friend has taken a chemical closer to “straight” amphetamine than MDMA (given that he is unable to sleep).
Unless he has stopped breathing or had heart problems during this time (which sounds unlikely) it is extremely unlikely he is going to suffer any form or permanent “brain damage”.
if you stay up for 3 days straight in a stressful situation, whether you have taken drugs or not, the mere lack of sleep itself can make many people psychotic. A lot of his reaction may have been anger that he wanted to rest but could not; and fear that he will not be able to sleep (particularly if he had other time pressures such as work or college).
The hospitals practice was fairly normal in this case. I expect (and hope) your friend will wake up and will (other than being tired and irritable) be otherwise well.
Raj’s advice is good; also please do not blame your friend or whinge at him incessantly for his drug use (or having to attend hospital) as the feelings of guilt can make any potential short-term mental health issues he may be experiencing worse..
i personally would rather get my high on music, not drugs
then again, its just me
yo do the fuckin resaecrh if rour goin to tak shit the dopamin enters the saratonin cells and dehydrates them so they shrivel up to create tempory damage then get replinsed when the saratonin gets rerealsed into ur nerons learn before u start bashin mdma
Been to the extreme and back (taken over 40 strong *snowballs – the ones tested as 400mg MDMA* pills in 24 hours) never been addicted. IMO it’s not possible – been addicted to other stuff, so have a fair idea what addicted feels like.
Not sure about the brain damage aspect. Always possible I suppose, but I don’t feel like my mental capacity has been compromised in any way.
Alcohol on the other hand (as someone else noted earlier), really does fuck you up. Had both parents be alcoholics, been one myself, and felt more broken than ever. Couldn’t think properly, lethargic, couldn’t play countdown and get more than a 5 letter word, or do the numbers. Properly broken. But more to the point, properly addicted too…:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy_diz:crazy_diz:crazy_diz.
Give me MDMA (or MDA, 2CB…whatever) anytime…raaaraaaraaa.
Don’t think Ecstasy makes holes in your brain… And I like to get high on music & drugs (I can do one at a time, but the combo contains (to use a common phrase) more than the sum of the parts)
Just an opinion though…
After using E for a few years now I have found its best to have at least a Months break after a big session.for personal well being and also to combat any tolerance I may have built up. :))
Yep. Would definetly agree with that. Tolerance gets to the point where it basically ceases to work if you push it too hard. The watchwords are use, don’t abuse…:love::love::love:.
Strictly speaking this isn’t what actually happens. MDMA is a serotonin re-uptake inhibitor (SRI) and what actually happens is that the 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) binds to serotonin receptors in the brain much tighter than Serotonin itself and thus causing a massive increase in (serotonin) concentration in the brain and it’s at this stage you get the feeling that most of us know and love. There is residual dopamine released owing to a limited amount of binding to dopamine receptors but this dopamine does not “dehydrate and shrivel” the serotonin receptors.
Over time the MDMA will be metabolised and hence its concentration gradually fades over time and it’s at this stage you start coming down. On the subject of metabolites, it is actually these (metabolites) that cause the damage in the brain rather than the MDMA itself. The metabolites of MDMA are toxic to the 5-HTA neurons that MDMA predominantly works on which has lead to a fair amount of research into preventing neurodamage after taking MDMA and results have proved that ‘brain damage’ is highly reduced if you stop the metabolites themselves binding to the 5-HTA neurons. The best way to achieve this is to take SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake inhibitors). These SSRIs act only on specific serotonin neurons, hence their name (Selective SRIs). One common example of this is Prozac (and some other anti-depressants). So while MDMA is illegal and the media and medical practioners halt any chance of reform, it is also the very same people that promote the use of anti-depressants if you’re depressed yet, it is feasible to say that drugs like Prozac are essentially mild Ecstasy tablets. :you_crazy
Anyway off on a tangent there. So taking SSRIs will obviously keep your general vibe a happy one as that’s what they’re designed for, but the point is that it prevents long term damage. However I would not recommend caning it every weekend and going to take a load of anti-depressants and going off thinking you’ll be fine, there are side effects. I don’t know them but it can’t be good to do that your head every weekend, especially to a neurotransmitter as crucial as serotonin.
I’m not really up for getting Prozac prescribed or buying at at ridiculous prices off the net so I just take 5-HTP the morning after the night before (as the saying goes) and take 2 every 6 hours up until Tuesday night and I can say it has really helped out. 5-HTP is the immediate precursor to serotonin and the body can convert this to re-store serotonin levels in the brain much quicker than say, in its absence and the serotonin will help ‘out compete’ MDMA’s metabolites so damage can be reduced.
Food that contain high levels of Tryptophan (5-HTPs precursor that eventually get converted to many things, one of which is serotonin) include
Bananas
Turkey
Chicken (not as much as Turkey)
It may be cliche’, but is so because it’s true.
Sorry to run on but I thought some may like to know what happens whenever you decide to go on that ride.
I have been using xtc for a quite a while now… nd i have onli ever had one bad trip.. nd that was on an acid base pill… always watch we’re ur gettin ur pills from nd b in safe enviroment when u use em… i have fun when im on pills always with my friends, always have the techno music cranked up to its max volume just follow the groove nd u will have a great time well thats wat i think…:bounce_fl
welcome to partyvibe
:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl
IF XTC LOOKS LIKE THIS DON’T TAKE TOO MUCH IN ONE FUCKIN’TIME:lol_crash
Food that contain high levels of Tryptophan (5-HTPs precursor that eventually get converted to many things, one of which is serotonin) include
Bananas
Turkey
Chicken (not as much as Turkey)
It may be cliche’, but is so because it’s true.
Sorry to run on but I thought some may like to know what happens whenever you decide to go on that ride.
5-HTP is magic stuff.. someone introduced me to it when i lived in Dublin and i never looked back.. helps ease comedowns and helps you sleep as the pills/capsules also contain valerian root.
You can get them in holland an barratt an most health food shops just ask the assistant for them 😉
I am aware of these pills in our region – not sure if they contain any particularly nasty substances but the ones which are about are quite strong (same strength as early 90s pills it seems!) – if taken in large amounts could easily be nasty..
POLICE have arrested a man on suspicion of supplying Class A drugs following the death of a young man after a night out in a Suffolk town.
Darren Baker, 22, was rushed to hospital after becoming seriously ill near a nightspot in Newmarket in the early hours of Sunday. It is believed he may have taken “a quantity” of ecstasy tablets.
Efforts to save Mr Baker – from the nearby village of Burwell – were unsuccessful, and he was pronounced dead at 3pm that afternoon.
Suffolk police confirmed a 27-year-old man, from Newmarket, had been arrested in connection with the incident, and he was being questioned at Bury Police Station last night.
Officers also released a description of ecstasy tablets thought to have been taken by Mr Baker, and issued a warning over the dangers of illegal drugs.
Last night, residents in Newmarket spoke of their shock at hearing of Mr Baker’s death, which is currently being described as “unexplained” by police.
Hollie Hinc , who runs the Istanbul Kebab shop, in the High Street, with her husband, Sukru , said: “There are normally a lot of people about at that time of the morning and it is not unusual for police to be in the area, but nothing like this has ever happened before so it is a real shock and a shame that someone has died.”
Warwick Hirst, mayor of Newmarket, said: “For someone to die at just 22 years old, when they have got their whole life in front of them, is very, very sad, and I am sure people in the town will feel shocked by what has happened.”
Mr Baker was standing in an alleyway off Grovesnor Yard when he became “unsteady on his feet and appeared very unwell”.
Police officers who were on patrol nearby were made aware of the situation, which unfolded at around 2am.
An ambulance was called, but the officers are believed to have taken Mr Baker to West Suffolk Hospital, in Bury, themselves.
A spokesman for Suffolk police said: “From the initial enquiries that police officers have made, it is understood that Mr Baker may have taken a quantity of ecstasy tablets which are currently in circulation.
“These are described as speckled two-tone pink, with kangaroo shapes cut into them.”
A post mortem examination will now take place to determine the exact cause of Mr Baker’s death. The spokesman added: “As a precautionary measure, police are reminding people of the dangers of taking illegal drugs.”
A spokesman for the East Anglian Ambulance Service said a call was received at just after 2am informing them someone was unwell in the town centre.
“A crew was sent to Newmarket, but on arrival, they discovered police had already taken the patient to hospital,” he said.
i got a couple of pink kagaroos at NFA’s reclaim the beach a month or so ago, they were the stongest pills id had in a long time, didnt feel badly wrecked at any point, well enjoyed the whole night it infact
but i know what villages in our area are like, nuting to do after the pubs closed apart from to walk the street on A class rugs, the local stupid chav pill heads in my village talk about there 30+ pills a night antics, ive only broken the 10 mark a couple of times and that was bad enough, i can easily c sum one triple boshin to start with an then doin another 10+ an being blow away with these,
cud have just been an allergic reaction tho
Problem being, IMO, is the quality in general of pills around these days are nothing compared to 5-10 years ago. I also hear stories of people taking an obscene amount during an evening. Personal choice usually being mdma crystal.
However, there are some of these pink kangaroos in circulation near me, and people are very impressed with them. Lower dosage is needed, instead of your traditional slamming of the lower quality pills that are all too common at the moment.
Pink is a special colour for pills in Holland – always very deadly!
Enjoy and be safe 🙂
Sorry to hear about the very sad news.
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