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  • Probably best to have a break off it for a little while, wait until things get back to normal. 🙂

    get some mephedrone instead =)

    p0lygon-Window;324290 wrote:
    get some mephedrone instead =)

    Ill take 50.

    looked on the dutch news and apparently there is a drought there, again the story given is one of the main precursor chemicals is in short supply as Chinese feds nicked lots of gangs as part of a clean-up drive before last years olympics

    here is the link – but I had to put this link through google translate as my Dutch is not as good as my French

    Xtc van aardbodem verdwenen – DePers.nl

    also another one here

    http://geknipt.nieuws.nl/786539

    i could really do with some tbh

    but i dont like paying for shit, so i’d better wait

    General Lighting;324328 wrote:
    looked on the dutch news and apparently there is a drought there, again the story given is one of the main precursor chemicals is in short supply as Chinese feds nicked lots of gangs as part of a clean-up drive before last years olympics

    here is the link – but I had to put this link through google translate as my Dutch is not as good as my French

    Xtc van aardbodem verdwenen – DePers.nl

    also another one here

    Nieuws.nl – Gezondheid Nieuws

    its dry round my way as well, heard the same thing that one of the ingredients has been made illegal and is now almost impossible to get. Sure it wont be long before iit gets back to normal tho. Didnt the same happen to speed a while ago, which is why you cant find the proper yellow paste any more.

    djprocess;324341 wrote:
    you cant find the proper yellow paste any more.

    :yakk::crazy_diz

    djprocess;324341 wrote:
    its dry round my way as well, heard the same thing that one of the ingredients has been made illegal and is now almost impossible to get. Sure it wont be long before iit gets back to normal tho. Didnt the same happen to speed a while ago, which is why you cant find the proper yellow paste any more.

    the precursor chemicals are same/similar solvents used for making both MDMA and amfetamine.

    Its not illegal as such as it has a load of legit uses such as plastic manufacture and cleaning but can also be used to make explosives so is on a UN watched list…

    This means if you tried to even order a 200L drum of it you would have to explain to the Home Office just what its intended uses were and various govt scientist bods might randomly pop in accompanied by a bobby or 20 to inspect your industrial premises.

    Because most Western nations don’t have much of a manufacturing industry any more, large shipments of this stuff from China to the West is viewed with suspicion. at both ends. If you look at international news you will notice that this appears to be less of a problem in India where they still make a lot of stuff.

    Another issue from the international scene is that until very recently, young Asians did not have much of a rave/drugs culture in their native lands as there was a lot more effective govt control against it, strong laws/religion and they were kept away from Western music culture.

    what has happened is that richer kids have gone to places like UEA and Essex to study, where they have become involved in the British rave scene and have brought the culture back to their home nations.

    These are the sons and daughters of ambassadors, business leaders etc so they have cash and contacts and the resources to set up things like supply routes – and enough family backing to corrupt the local feds (in the Asian countries( avoid being busted and executed, so a rave scene has emerged in the Asian countries.

    now a lot of middle class kids from the call centres and dot com companies in India, China and even Indonesia and Malaysia (as well as Western Tourists) have swelled the scene and caused a backlash at both ends of the world – not so much because of laws/religion but because parents are seeing their own children suffer the same physical / mental health problems as we do in the West.

    Tthis is also why the UK universities are clamping down on drug use a lot more as the rich foreigners are saying they will stop sending students here…

    General Lighting;324366 wrote:
    Tthis is also why the UK universities are clamping down on drug use a lot more as the rich foreigners are saying they will stop sending students here…

    where do u get this infomation from?

    p0lygon-Window;324370 wrote:
    where do u get this infomation from?

    searching the google news sites, as well as anecdotal evidence from people at the unis and friends/family – bear in mind my extended family is in Malaysia and I have lots of cousins in their 20s

    Ketamine is less than £4 a gram there in a country where they hang people for drugs… that surprised me to, but I think some Indians are flooding the country with it as a political reprisal for historical stuff

    its got to the stage where the Malaysian courts can’t hang everyone like they used to or they’d have no youths left. (they get put in a prison hospital rehab place instead)

    do alot of malaysians do drugs then?

    p0lygon-Window;324377 wrote:
    do alot of malaysians do drugs then?

    its still extremely risky but its an increasing number. Bear in mind cops there are poorly paid and can be bribed to ignore minor investigations (although the Govt are getting wise to this).

    The forced rehab isn’t very nice though…

    in Singapore things are tougher as its such a small country with very effective surveillance. There was a Singapore Chinese lad on here a few months ago who explained this..

    General Lighting;324366 wrote:
    Another issue from the international scene is that until very recently, young Asians did not have much of a rave/drugs culture in their native lands as there was a lot more effective govt control against it, strong laws/religion and they were kept away from Western music culture.

    what has happened is that richer kids have gone to places like UEA and Essex to study, where they have become involved in the British rave scene and have brought the culture back to their home nations.

    I lived with some lads from the Maldives who were over here studying aircraft engineering who got into the Norfolk Bumpkin parties in a big way.
    They were all pretty loaded and their mates used to fly over specifically for some of the big ‘community’ parties :laugh_at:

    This little Maldivian guy called Afra has gone on a mission to export the Norfolk rave culture back to the Maldivian atolls. I think the whole Hip Hop/ bling ‘ting has made more of an impression over there but he’s always trying to blast out the hard trance at their little parties.

    It makes me giggle thinking that on some little Island far away, Afra and his mates are stomping the day away to ‘propoganda spread…people them fell as the batton hit the head’ :laugh_at:

    That’s globalisation for ya, even Norfolk’s getting in on the action.

    I recall sitting there with these lads at 7 or 8 in the moring, all spinning out on the mandy, and his laptop keeps making this weird noise…like arabic chanting. I asked him what it was and he informed me that it was Salah (Islamic prayer) time. He’s a naughty lil Muslim :laugh_at:

    I think the only ‘rugs available out there is yabba and what sounds like Herion or Opium from the description he gave me :yakk:

    Scouse;324747 wrote:
    It makes me giggle thinking that on some little Island far away, Afra and his mates are stomping the day away to ‘propoganda spread…people them fell as the batton hit the head’ :laugh_at:

    That’s globalisation for ya, even Norfolk’s getting in on the action.

    I remember going to my first EA parties and thinking “bet I’m the only Asian by the stack” – only to find the scene was more multicultural than in SE England! some ravers even seemed to know I was of SE Asian ancestry and thought I was from various exotic SE Asian nations (usually Thailand, Phillipines or Malaysia) – until I spoke and they assumed I was from Basildon or Romford 😥

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    I recall sitting there with these lads at 7 or 8 in the moring, all spinning out on the mandy, and his laptop keeps making this weird noise…like arabic chanting. I asked him what it was and he informed me that it was Salah (Islamic prayer) time. He’s a naughty lil Muslim :laugh_at:

    reminds me of my Muslim work colleague in Reading who was a big fan of Dutch gabba :laugh_at:

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    I think the only ‘rugs available out there is yabba and what sounds like Herion or Opium from the description he gave me :yakk:

    typical SE / South Asian selection. Still can’t believe that ket is £3.50 a gram in Malaysia, some dealers must really want to fight back against the anti-drugs régime there…

    i still cant work out how just because one of the precursors is illegal its had this much of an effect. Surely it just being made illegal wouldnt stop people being able to get hold of it…

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