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May 6, 2009 at 9:50 am

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General Lighting

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djprocess;324754 wrote:

i still cant work out how just because one of the precursors is illegal its had this much of an effect. Surely it just being made illegal wouldnt stop people being able to get hold of it…

checks on all shipments of chemicals have been beefed up since 2001 worldwide because of the terrorism scares – worse, those particular chemicals (ketones) can also be made into explosives, so its a no-brainer for feds worldwide to start busting the illicit chemical importers on suspicion of terrorism as well as than just drugs manufacture – in most jurisidictions this combined charge is enough to hold people without trial for weeks..

This is clearly enough to shake up most “entrepreneurs” to frighten them off letting slightly dodgy shipments get through, especially as I guess many are from otherwise legitimate Chinese/Asian companies run as family businesses, where often the “black sheep” son of a large family would have got involved in this game due to the multicultural rave scene..

ironically there are still loads of pills getting through to the harsher Asian countries but I think they escape the extra stage of Customs checks that happen to all Asian goods when sent to the West..
May 6, 2009 at 10:10 am

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process

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if its just a case of more checks being made on chemicals coming in, you’d think they’d just start smuggling them in as well. there’s got to be enough supply routes already set up for other things, so you wouldnt think bringing in one extra chemical on the sly would cause this bad a drought.
May 6, 2009 at 10:43 am

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Scouse

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Maybe someone just got greedy…I remember what I was like when I first started munching the madman.
May 6, 2009 at 10:47 am

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djprocess;324767 wrote:

if its just a case of more checks being made on chemicals coming in, you’d think they’d just start smuggling them in as well. there’s got to be enough supply routes already set up for other things, so you wouldnt think bringing in one extra chemical on the sly would cause this bad a drought.

Its not so much a drought at street level but dealers minimising risks and boosting profits – mixing what MDMA remains and/or substituting it with amfet, piperazines and other less illegal chemicals.

the same reason is why K (class C) has increasingly become the ravers drug of “choice” as opposed to MDMA or amfet (Class A/B) – for the middle level dealers, why would they risk doing 8 years in the can when they can make as much profit with K and get a fraction of the sentence!

I expect its only going to get worse with the recession as feds/customs haven’t forgotten or forgiven the 1980s/1990s when the last recession led to pills getting smuggled in – bear in mind also there are more people now working as feds/customs what used to be drug users or associate with them and know the techniques – poacher turned gamekeeper..
May 6, 2009 at 10:57 am

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Scouse

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Another reason why K has become the drug of choice is that it’s bloody addictive!
People get on it and can’t leave it alone and it’s something you can quite easily cain every night and still be able to function relatively well the next morning.

The amounts I see people get through are quite sickening tbh…3 or 4 grams a day isn’t seen as overdoing it in some circles and even skint people like myself can manage this if you all chip in on a q of a L. or whatever…too damn cheap. I think the french have got the right idea…
May 8, 2009 at 8:44 pm

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DrugExplorer

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hey, someone really needs to shed some light on this one for me, becauce extacy is slowly becoming pritty shit…. !!!!!!!!!!! its the tolernce levels man!! so… i stay off it for like 3 /4 months…. and try it again… and its still shit…. doesnt your tolerance build back up!?!!?? PLEASE TELL ME IT DOES!!!
May 9, 2009 at 2:21 pm

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slipknow

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If you took 3/4 months off and its still shit, then you’ve probably got impure or fake MD.
May 9, 2009 at 3:28 pm

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People often state theres a honeymood period with MDMA where after the first 15-30 times it loses some of its pleasure. I dont really touch it anymore (makes me grind my teeth for about 4 months afterwards and doesnt help my depression) but i did notice it was never as nice as the first few times thereafter.

Also if you have started to take any new medication etc this could effect it.
May 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm

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GiantMidget

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6 years in and i think i’m still on my honeymoon period. I don’t do it all the time but i still buzz fucking hard on ecstasy, as long as it’s good stuff that is!
May 9, 2009 at 5:40 pm

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jeanieface

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MDMA is far, far better than XTC. The fact that pills are so cheap now just goes to show how little MDMA is actually in them. Years ago you could pay £10 – £15 for one XTC pill but now they can easily be bought for less than £2. Back in the day, you only had to have one or 2 pills for your whole night and you would be flying, now people are popping 8, 9, 10 and still not getting the same buzz. It’s because they’re now cut with all kinds of crap and the MDMA content is getting less and less. Given the choice I know what I’d rather have. But then again, all drugs are bad so I wouldn’t do any of them 😉
May 9, 2009 at 5:44 pm

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p0ly

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push those pills up ur bum
May 9, 2009 at 7:39 pm

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GiantMidget

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p0lygon-Window;325801 wrote:

push those pills up ur bum

Tempting but i don’t think i could handle the shame. Or look at myself in the mirror again.
May 9, 2009 at 7:42 pm

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p0ly

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jonny will help u do it
May 9, 2009 at 7:42 pm

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joshd96320

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so will u lol
May 9, 2009 at 7:43 pm

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GiantMidget

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p0lygon-Window;325828 wrote:

jonny will help u do it

Well i was gonna ask you to help mate but Jonny will have to do i suppose. :laugh_at:
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