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Hi,
I’m an occassional user and have been since the halcyon days of 88/89/90.
As almost 40 plus family etc don’t manage more than a couple a year these days. Historically pills have always been round and (off)white, sometimes with motif stamped on them. Only ever had one coloured pill and that was yellow and huge and in Ibiza in 1991.
Fast forward to 2005. Had some of those red heart shaped ones a few weeks back and they were ace.
But has anyone seen the news regarding the woman dying in Lancashire and police statement of ‘dangerous killer form of ecstasy’? See the Beeb website if you doubt me. Is this just normal propaganda or is there a batch of very risky pills knocking about?
Or are they just really good pills and this woman was one of the unlucky ones?
Not that I’m paranoid or anything!!
that’s what ‘Sasha’ Shulgin said too!
:bigsmile:
With any drug, a first-time user may discover that they either do or do not enjoy the drug’s effects. Some drugs, such as DXM or DMT, are not appealing to the majority of users. MDMA, however, has one of the highest “approval” rates of all recreational drugs. Assuming one obtains a pure pill, it is pretty difficult for someone to have a bad time while under its influence.
That being said, there is plenty of hard evidence out there that frequent MDMA use IS harmful. While studies based on infrequent users are currently inconclusive (although so far signs suggest it’s probably fine), those who take MDMA at recreational doses more than once every two weeks have been definitively shown to take on some amount of brain damage, affecting the overall cognitive ability of those individuals. Although it is not yet clear whether this damage is permanent or temporary, it has been shown to last at least a year or two.
A more immediate risk of MDMA is dehydration. Many users become energetic while rolling, and will more likely than not want to run around or dance (yup, this means all you ravers out there.) It is not uncommon to push your body’s endurance a ways beyond what you would otherwise take on. Dehydration is probably the most severe risk for users of pure MDMA, so remember to take some breaks and cool off once in a while, as well as drinking water frequently.
Note that consumption of alcohol while on MDMA is a VERY bad idea; it complicates your bodily processes in all sorts of nasty ways, the most obvious of which is that alcohol is in itself a dehydrant. It should also be mentioned that anyone regularly taking anti-depressants/MAOIs should steer clear of MDMA; not only will they not feel the effects, they will be taking a very serious health risk. (There was even an episode of Dawson’s Creek that dealt with this.)
Finally, any prospective user should be familiar with all of the drug’s effects, and be prepared to accept any consequences of their actions while under the influence. In other words, unless you’re confident in your ability to control yourself in this altered state of mind, don’t be surprised to wake up next to your idiotic ex-boyfriend and totally regret telling him the night before that you loved him all along, which for some inexplicable reason seemed like a good idea at the time.
all i could find related was this, which is standard:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3224426.stm
and this, which is fucked up. (bloody US scientists :rolleyes: )
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3089350.stm
even worse, they havent taken down or ammended the original article!:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/369042.stm
bloody beeb, too :you_smart
:bigsmile:
theres always something in the news now and then warning of the danger of pills – there was a case a few years back of ‘super strong’ pills and i had one of these and they weren’ t all that – maybe because back then i used to do loads – but like you age(am 31) and family mean i dont do as much – in fact none this year so far!! You should know yourself – if you have been a user for some time – i know when i stop for a period of time i do become a tad nervous of the risk – is it age or….?
as for dehydration – i sip water – never down it – whizzing or pilling – you can have too much water as well – your brain swells up apparantly etc not very nice – but some people are allergic to certain stuff, and with the crap in pills you never know do you- me myself i judge with what i know about myself – if you knwo what i mean?
:bigsmile:
ummmmm….who?! (sorry if dumn q… :bounce_ci )
Alexander Shulgin (Sasha being a russian(?) abbreviation for Alexander)
a very brainy man who discovered most of the effects of drugs like Ecstasy and wrote a book about them
but always stressed responsible drug use
like doing things in moderation
and more subtle stuff – like when he had friends who were in relationships trip round his house he knew the drugs can make people “loved up” so if they weren’t with their normal partners he’d make sure they weren’t tempted to cheat on their partners and wreck years of a good relationship for one night
a very brainy man who discovered most of the effects of drugs like Ecstasy and wrote a book about them
but always stressed responsible drug use
like doing things in moderation
and more subtle stuff – like when he had friends who were in relationships trip round his house he knew the drugs can make people “loved up” so if they weren’t with their normal partners he’d make sure they weren’t tempted to cheat on their partners and wreck years of a good relationship for one night
googled him. Sounds like my kinda guy! I seem to have the same drug-attitude, which is reassuring :weee:
I learn something everyday…thanks!
heeii!!
the best E for me was and still is white or red bacardy.:D When you take it everything is ql..you have a lot of energy ang you’re smiling all the time.but now i can’t get it anymore cause nobody has it..:(
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Extacy- don’t even know how you spell it. Is that right?
Extacy is the most fun ever. Think back to when you were playing tig when you were small and the person on the opposite team was somebody you really fancied.just imagine the rush you got when you ‘tigged’ them and how theymade a fuss. You know that rush you got when you got to talk, or laugh or touch them? multiply that by infinity. The feeling is immense. How often are you in a room where you love everyone to bits. Never – unless you’re on e. all i want to do is bang my fists in time to the sweet sounding music and listen to what everyone has to say. And they want to listen to you.
basically you’re most likely to die when you’re driving ina cr to taking extacy. The only harm it can do is make you big headed because you’ve taken it. Apart from that all it can lead to is goodness, happiness, fun and wonderfullness and brilliantness and extaticness and loverlyness. i can’t spell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love extacy. i wish you never had to some down. ever.
i agree with that dude ^ moderation is the best policy regualr use causes low seratonin levels and depression but carefull use like monthly with sum1 who knows what to do if your avin a bad one your pretty safe and yes more ppl die in cars but more ppl drive cars than take E so its all relative han just the same as terrorists kill alot less than aids although the g8 sumit was trying to help such things n africa well thats no the point anyway its not SAFE but not much in life is 😛
i guess if you know what your doing & you are capable of keeping your head(without turning into a ‘i know exactly what im doing’ type of person)i dont think they are all that dangerous.its when you go in with closed eyes or start to think you know best and can take whatever you want in whatever amount that you want,is when it becomes a risk.i agree that people should be better educated on the use of xtc rather than just preached at about the risks!when statistically you are more likely to die fishing i dont feel that death should come into it-if people just knew the coulds,woulds and what ifs taking drugs such as xtc wouldnt be so dangerous
yeah to right mel like my brothers m8 reckons he can drink his own weight in vodka. then u should be worried because maybe one day he will attempt this which would be like i dunno 12 stone worth of vodka aha would kill him no doubt
hi ow,haha thats a typical example of the type of person who is likely to lose their head on drugs!my mates the same recently she seems to think shes god’s gift to xtc!because i took ALOT in eitp and didnt really lose my head shes acting like she will be the same.@ the end of the day ive been taking them for a year and a half longer than her & ive always had ppl like jamie around me telling me to pace myself & making me aware of the risks.when i try to do that for her she brushes me off saying she knows best & well you took ‘x’ amount in eitp but she doesnt realise just bcos i did and was ok that she wont necessarily be ok too.i dont have the niave attitude that she has towards them…..i became quite immune to them cos i took them loads…so wot did i do?stopped taking them for a while(been bout 5-6wks now).what does she do?takes more & the messes she gets in-well lets not get into that lol.personally i think your brother’s mate sounds very immature if he thinks he could cane his own wait in vodka!!!that would be a stupid thing to try but after about a litre and a half,where he’d probably conk out after spewing his insides out,he’d realise how wrong he was.
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