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  • back to the MD though

    nope, none anywhere at all. Hasn’t been for months

    shame really

    @tlegato 365449 wrote:

    well done parents

    well done feds

    pat on the back to ya :laugh_at:

    SOCA etc consider a rise in use of contaminated drugs and even deaths to be mere collateral damage and although they are too PC to say it these days think that increasing dangers helps also reduce demand as some people get scared and the “reckless ones get what they deserve”

    I’ll be quite blunt about this.. even middle class British society now considers kids to be disposable, as much as they are in Africa or Asia, perhaps more so..

    there were 10,000 live births in the Suffolk PCT region last year. Thats a lot of babies, so many that they have to share a midwife between 2/3 mums and the mums and kids are sent on their way within a few hours if they are healthy or the hospitals would all go to red alert.

    I asked a few older colleagues who had kids and they said this had been going on for the last two decades at least, particularly since long term marriage has fallen out of fashion. Bear in mind this also means that “family units” what had two or more kids now have four, five or even six, albeit with different natural parents.

    at the same time society is ruthlessly competitive and can afford to pick and choose “the best of the best” for education, jobs etc.

    Especially from teenage years upwards, at each stage these youths are judged and whittled out – like X factor but with real human lives at stake.

    go and look and the news and you will see loads of young people aged 14 to 30 dying of loads of things, not just drugs but road traffic collisions or killing each other in fights and domestics. Then there are suicides, and also those who have been conned into giving their lives for a pointless foreign war (often with the full support of their equally deluded but stubborn families). When I read the obituaries in the local rag it seems half the people are now younger than me these days and I’m not yet even 40.. there should be more of a outcry about this but I think wider society (away from the bereaved families) really doesn’t care any more.

    Ecstasy was responsible for the major drug scare of the 90s. Yet the death of Leah Betts did little to deter the public, with demand and supply rising throughout the next decade until pills cost just £1.

    But now ecstasy seems to be disappearing from the streets. Ed Davey reports on how changes in supply half way around the world are affecting drug use in the UK.

    For years, drug-takers have visited internet forums to compare ecstasy pills.

    Websites are used to compare samples of the potentially deadly stimulant – to warn users from bogus pills or highlight pure batches.

    But investigate sites today and you can tell change is afoot.

    “When was the last time you had a decent E?” writes one British user. “They never seem to do much these days, what’s happened?”

    ‘Steroids and caffeine’

    Another drug taker from east London wrote: “A couple months ago me and my pal spent £100 on a hundred pills.

    “My pal got nicked and police came back saying they consisted of steroids and caffeine.”

    Metropolitan Police statistics confirm a year-on-year drop in ecstasy possession.

    In 2006 some 1,197 people were caught with ecstasy in London.

    In 2007 that fell to 984, then to 773 in 2008.

    And the most recent figures available for last year show just 331 were caught.

    Some have attributed the apparent fall to a new trend in the drug scene, with users opting for so-called legal highs such as mephedrone, sold as a plant fertilizer, or recently-banned GBL.

    But anecdotal evidence suggests drug users resort to such drugs in the absence of their traditional drug-of-choice.

    ‘Can’t buy it’

    Another user wrote online: “The only time I’ve come across real MDMA in six months is when someone dug up their stash that had been buried for a year.

    “Ecstasy used to be easier to get than a packet of fags – people buy mephedrone now and pass it off as MDMA, it’s just not the same.”

    MDMA is the active ingredient in ecstasy. In the past criminals made it easily because it was simple to obtain chemicals used in its manufacture from legitimate companies in the Far East.

    But Rossen Popov, of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, told BBC London such precursor chemicals are now tightly restricted.

    He said: “It has become more difficult to obtain the precursor chemical.

    “For example, between 2008 and 2009 only two countries exported it and the total traded was less than five litres.”

    He added: “China is the only country where it is manufactured, but in small amounts under tight control.”

    Harry Shapiro of DrugScope has also seen a fall in ecstasy use.

    He said: “If you can’t buy it, you can’t buy it – that could be to do with this issue of precursor chemicals.

    “If you lack the chemicals to make it there will be less around.

    “The figures suggest MDMA is harder to get at the moment than it was.”

    A particularly large seizure of precursor chemicals was made in Cambodia last year.

    Seizures of precursor chemicals by drug enforcement agencies are seen as good progress.

    Ecstasy causes numerous annual deaths in the UK, although despite the publicity, an inquest into Leah Bett’s death found that it was actually excessive water consumption that caused her death.

    The drug caused her body to release anti-diuretic hormones, stopping a normal level of urination that could have saved her.

    Now other chemicals are filling the void left behind by ecstacy.

    And unlike ecstasy, which has been taken for 20 years and has well-known side effects, users taking new substances remain guinea pigs.

    ‘A paralysing mania’

    Mr Shapiro said: “Former legal highs BZP and GBL are legal no longer.

    “But the biggest surprise has been mephedrone which has come into the mainstream.”

    Among the side-affects of mephedrone, which replicates the effects of ecstasy and can be legally bought online, is poor circulation.

    Users complain of knees or fingers turning blue.

    Andy Capper, editor of London-based Vice Magazine, tried some for an article.

    He said: “It was the combination of sadness and fear and felt even more dirty than cocaine.

    “There was also a paralysing mania. I felt totally insane.”

    He continued: “I was terrified of every car that came past. Each one sounded like people coming to tell me about all the bad things I’d done in my life, or kill me.

    “There was a fear of death, but the sadness was so intense it negated the fear.”

    BBC News – Why ecstasy is ‘vanishing’ from UK nightclubs

    Among the side-affects of mephedrone, which replicates the effects of ecstasy and can be legally bought online, is poor circulation.

    Users complain of knees or fingers turning blue.

    Andy Capper, editor of London-based Vice Magazine, tried some for an article.

    He said: “It was the combination of sadness and fear and felt even more dirty than cocaine.

    “There was also a paralysing mania. I felt totally insane.”

    He continued: “I was terrified of every car that came past. Each one sounded like people coming to tell me about all the bad things I’d done in my life, or kill me.

    “There was a fear of death, but the sadness was so intense it negated the fear.”

    what a pile of shit, i bet it wasn’t even mephe or the guy is mentally ill.

    @p0ly 369611 wrote:

    what a pile of shit, i bet it wasn’t even mephe or the guy is mentally ill.

    haha they sound like some serious side effects he was having, I am sure mentally unstable people should not be touching drugs

    It was the combination of sadness and fear and felt even more dirty than cocaine.

    cocaine caused him sadness and fear… then the mad man went and did mephedrone.

    For fuck sake. The media always blame the death of Leah Betts solely on Es. She died from Water intoxication, had she been properly educated about the drug then her death probably wouldn’t of happened.

    Or you get people like me who are not dramatic attention seekers, done stimulants in large quantity’s over the last 15 years when i feel like it and can still function and go to work at near 30…..with no horror storys at all.

    The bloke must of been mental in the first place because meph is just a stimulant, thats all…and not even a great one.

    @p0ly 369615 wrote:

    cocaine caused him sadness and fear… then the mad man went and did mephedrone.

    he did a binge of 5 grams which was lucky not to put him in hospital :you_crazy

    the report confirms what I have been suspecting for years, that the East/SE Asian countries governments have become a lot better at controlling the export of precursor chemicals because a lot of the local youth got into drugs and raves, and it was middle class youth from good families being influenced from their University days in British and European unis during the 1990s and 2000s.

    This meant these nations couldn’t deal out the harsh penalties to users any more (my relatives have confirmed that Malaysia is awash with drugs as much as a Western nation now!) but they are still ruthless when catching dealers/chemists.

    All the cops are armed in that part of the world, they don’t fuck around with stuff like human rights or political correctness. In many cases they can and do arrest under terrorism laws and can hold suspected high level dealers on remand without access to a defence lawyer for 28 days or more (thats assuming they don’t just shoot them).

    This means that less and less people are going to take the risk with making MDMA.

    Even in liberal European countries its a longer prison sentence for manufacture than even low-medium level dealing, so until 4-MMC and similar stuff is made illegal too this will continue. I also suspect the worlds feds might not even be that stupid as to put the stakes up so high that more people take the risk with making MDMA again!

    5 grams is not alot to a normal clubber on the weekend, usually we share around 10 grams between a few of us before we go out and get more later of some type of stimulant.

    New Years eve i did 6 grams of coke, a gram of speed, salvia then we shared 9 grams of meph through teh rest of the night, on top of drinking a lot of vodka.

    I was tired the next day….but nothing mental.

    oh was that the guy in that stupid article which was on the net?

    5 grams entire for one person who hadn’t done it before would be a very strong dose. I suspect the journo might have been a bit mental but many of these so-called “gonzo” writers are.

    Regularly doing loads of any drug though and getting tolerance just makes everything more expensive and fucks your body over. Large amounts will get you in the end..

    @DJCliffy 369619 wrote:

    For fuck sake. The media always blame the death of Leah Betts solely on Es. She died from Water intoxication, had she been properly educated about the drug then her death probably wouldn’t of happened.

    i reckon somebody would have topped themselves either way, leah betts or not

    loads of people had died before Leah Betts, it just happened to be the fact her Dad was a copper with a chip on his shoulder. He was not only responsible for the death of his own daughter as she only drunk all the water because she was para about her Dad finding out (a dude I know from a Norwich drugs help group had the balls to say that straight to his face on a live TV debate raaa) but was in part responsible for creating the mess we have today in East Anglia with loads of drug addiction and the community/police relations between youths and cops virtually non-existent, with a knock on effect of spiralling crime/anti-social behaviour..

    Mr Betts (having been discredited in England, even his own former Police force disowned him) fucked off to Scotland to set up a anti-drugs group which was eventually discredited by all the other professionals in the country, closed down and his better staff absorbed into NHS Scotland – fair play to the Scots!

    @Shorty81 369630 wrote:

    5 grams is not alot to a normal clubber on the weekend, usually we share around 10 grams between a few of us before we go out and get more later of some type of stimulant.

    New Years eve i did 6 grams of coke, a gram of speed, salvia then we shared 9 grams of meph through teh rest of the night, on top of drinking a lot of vodka.

    I was tired the next day….but nothing mental.

    you sir, are one of the people in society who should never take drugs….that is a rediculous ammount of stimulants to be snorting in 1 night……im surprised you didnt have a heart attack.

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